Duran from Montreal vs Leonard (New Orleans)

This would be an extremely hard one to call. A 50-50 shot. Leonard would be backing off throwing punches,but not all of them connecting,as Duran would be coming forward slipping a lot of Leonard's punches. It would go to the judges cards again,and would more than likely be a split decision. Put a gun against my head,and I would say Duran,only because every now and then a great fighter almost becomes like a force of nature,where they are not going to lose,even if you shell them with torpedos ! Muhammad Ali in Zaire had that aura about him. So too did the Roberto Duran of Montreal.

 

Actually, Leonard ried to move at times in Montreal but he never had success with it. Even he commentaors go that. Against the Duran of the first fight Leonard would always lose.

 

When I say moving, I dont mean on his toes like in Duran 2, Im talking changes of angles & not being stationary for any length of time.

How about the actual fight before Montreal vs Dave Green ?
He moved constantly in that one, using his jab, feints, combo`s etc.... nothing like he did vs Duran... if he uses even that style vs Duran in Montreal, he wins, he fought the wrong fight vs Duran, plain & simple.

I know Duran is well loved here on ESB but those that act like Leonad never fought Duran`s fight are giving Duran FAR too much credit.... it was a brilliant performance but lets not exaggerate it too much... if Leonard shows up in `boxing` mode he beats Duran`s ass every time, lets keep it real here.

 

...........he fought in a style that won him the fight? What do you mean HIS style?? Fluidity is a style, a style great fighters have to adapt when they need to. Pull that tongue out for christ sake, he wants no mas of your tongue. He lost to Lenard twice, he quit like a *****. Leonard is the better fighter.

 

Go back to the General Forum where you belong :hi:

 

We're on the same page.

 

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Can i stay now please?:thumbsup

 

Yep, the page of reality :good

 

So, you guys live in a mirror universe

 

Oh the irony

 

I think the amazing part about this thread is that the Duranimals are not giving any credit to Leonard for coming up with a strategy for beating Duran. Roberto mauled Sugar Ray in the first fight and came back too late, but he adjusted and made him quit.
People act like he gambled on the fact that Duran might gain weight between fights. No, he didn't. All he did was invoke a rematch clause.
You can't blame a guy for using his superior athleticism to stay out of trouble and harms way. It was his best chance of winning, and he won. Give the man credit for fighting a smart fight.

 

Leonard never made Duran quit!!! Duran made Duran quit!!!

I've no prob's with Leonard winning this fight as it was all down to Duran who just went into spontanious combustion & mentally blew up, remarkable strength of character when yer think about it, to just stop & say **** off & nobody was more shocked than a very relieved Leonard.

Thats why i'am a duran disciple as there's the good the bad & the ugly in all of us, we all have a bit of duran in us, he showed he's human after all, just ask yerself why he's the most popular fighter these last 30+ years, even now when he attends any fight he's mobbed by cheering crowds & gets the biggest roar when announced at ringside. He's the failings of any man & what you see in duran you see in all men & thats why he's so popular as he's honest.

 

Well, it took balls to invoke, granted, but the events of "No Mas" cut both ways. Nobody believes Duran was at his absolute best that night, at least no one that I know of. If "gamble" is too strong a word, Leonard was definitely expecting a Duran letdown, and he got one. Or was able to force one. The word choice just depends on who you like better.

The weird thing about this whole question is that we're asking how SRL, with the experience of fighting Duran once, would do against a Duran who would still be fighting him for the first time. I see both sides of this one, but picking Duran to win is a pretty bold statement. Whatever you think of SRL, you can't say he was a stupid fighter, and I've got to think his boxing IQ here (not to take anything away from Duran's), with 15 rounds against Duran already under his belt, would be a huge factor favoring him.

I'd seriously think about picking Duran in an '83 rubbermatch at 154, assuming Ray was never injured. Here though, I think Leonard guts out a decision.

 

What I was stating is that Leonard would have invoked a rematch clause irregardless, so wether Duran was ready to battle or not is meaningless. Only an idiot would have come into a fight ill-prepared after such a tough fight the first time around.
Leonard was a great, great fighter, and I would always pick him to win a rematch against Duran, no matter what shape Roberto got himself into.