Duran from Montreal vs Leonard (New Orleans)

Why would they expect a letdown when Duran was just destroying all of his other opposition at the lighter weights? Did he do the same thing at Lightweight?

 

Because he was a kid from the gutter who had just walked off with almost $2 million, the biggest payday of his career to that point. The "satin sheets" syndrome happens to athletes all the time. It wasn't a secret that he had a huge entourage and put on serious weight between fights either.

Dave Jacobs thought the rematch was a bad enough idea that he gave it as the reason he quit. And Ray didn't ask for the rematch "immediately", he went to Hawaii for a month and decided on it after a "Rocky III" moment running on the beach.

The same thing at LW? Not exactly, but the writing was on the wall.

 

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Ha Ha Ha Leonard could of done this, Leonard could of done that, Leonard was gunna do this, Leonard was gunna do that. Well why didn't he?

He waitied for Duran to get out of shape to get in the ring with him again then ran the whole time. (t was a master plan , mind you)

Leonard could of betten Hagler in his prime ?, then why didn't he?

Just like his son Floyd who could beat this WW and could beat Pacman and could do this and do that?

I knew kids like that in school "I could of bashed him but I did not want to" even tho' he stole my bike. "I am the fastest runner in the school but I am not going to race as I don't want to"

Might watch Leonard vs Benitez , as it was a great fight between two great fighters, then I might put Leonard vs Hector on a loop for a few hours, couple of beers and a laugh.

 

There's a great doco I watched recently about the Leonard and Duran fights and both Dundee and Leonard said that the whole thing about Ray not fighting his gameplan was a load of crap, they plain got beat.

 

It only took him a month to ask for a rematch. Is that a long time to you? The point is he wanted to fight him again. He took a month off to get over that and got back on the boat. Nothing wrong with that. The point is that Leonard lost because he fought the wrong fight. He couldn't beat Duran fighting the way he fought the first time.
The second time around, he adapted a style that worked well. Wether Duran was ready or got fat between fights is immaterial, because Ray was prepared, and to fight the same Duran as the first time.

 

What is it with you????

Leonard did not want to fight Duran again not so soon, he's said it himself, how is it that you just can't take this in??? & why do you keep carping on about leonard fighting the wrong fight!!! Leonard himself has said he did'nt & that he was beaten fair & square!!!

I've met & spoken with Leonard & you hav'nt!!

Leonard comes to the UK once a year for a Q/A tour & he gets pissed off with all this "Fought the wrong fight" crap, so what is it with you & your opinions regarding this fantasy of your's, why do you persist with this nonesense.

I suggest you go & watch the Howard Cossell interview with leonard for ABC sports & you'll here Leonard admit to the fact that Duran stopped him from being able to use his lateral movement & that he was suprised at Duran's speed of hand & foot.

Ray says the one positive he took from Montreal was the fact that he was able to face death & survive & he now knew more about him self as a fighting man in that he could fight to survive for 15 rounds when he had an opponant in front of him that wanted to beat him to death.

 

The Duran of Montreal beats Leonard anytime IMO.

 

Roberto Duran KO1 Rojas, a young Ray Leonard commentating:

[ame]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=tUjgsBvbBOY[/ame]

 

It sounds likes Ray learned a lot about himself and survived a war of attrition. Good fighters take negatives and turn in into positives. Leonard was a great fighter.

What is it with you? Even if he wanted to stand toe-to-toe with Duran and slug, it is the wrong way to beat him. I never even liked Leonard as a fighter and rooted for Duran, and I know Leonard can't beat Roberto that way. If Leonard was so confident in the strategy he fought the first time, then he would have tried it again, but it would never work.
What the hell are you banging on about? I don't have a fantasy. I'm just saying that the man made the proper adjustments and fought the proper fight. To say that Leonard just caught Duran when Duran wasn't ready is doing Sugar Ray an injustice, especially when Ray has proven countless times that he can pull something out of his hat time and time again.
The thing I can say about the Montreal fight is that Duran could not have fought a better fight and Leonard could have, and he did when he made Duran quit. You can say he didn't make Duran quit, but we all know what happpened.

 

Why do you ignore that Leonard and Dundee both said they fought the right fight? Why do you ignore that Leonard himself admitted they knew Duran would get out of shape and that they made the fight so that he would have problems to come in in shape on fight night?
Why do you stick with a myth when the people involved and profiting from it say otherwise?

 

I don't. Leonard got beat because he and Dundee thought he could win fighting the fight they did. They were wrong and he lost the fight. Wether he knew Duran would explode or not, Leonard was prepared. This is all I am saying I'm not trying to be arguementative. I'm just saying is that Leonard could never win the fight with the strategy he used for the first fight. Leonard thought he could, and he was wrong.

 

So you know better than Dundee and Leonard himself?

 

Close thread.... we have a winner :good