Barney Ross, Toni Canzoneri and Jimmy McLarnin

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  1. bodhi

    bodhi Obsessed with Boxing Full Member

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    These three are growing quie a bit on me over the last few weeks. What's your ranking/oppinion of/on them? Is it justifiable o rank Canzoneri the highest of these three?
     
  2. Flea Man

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    I'd say any ranking can be justified, but off the top of my head I'd have Canzoneri and Ross 11 and 12 respectively and McLarnin at 16.

    I'm delving into these guys even more by the day, just brilliant fighters, all with their own individual style, all durable, all top 20 ATG's.
     
  3. GPater11093

    GPater11093 Barry Full Member

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    They are amazingly evenly matched although I am inclined to rank Ross the highest due to his superiority over the era until Armstrong came. I did think he asserted his controll of the era by beating McLarnin & Canzoneri among others.

    Although Canzoneri absoloutly amazes me and he is my favrouite of the lot.
     
  4. Flea Man

    Flea Man มวยสากล Full Member

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    Fair points.

    Looking forward to those dvd's lad:smoke:yep
     
  5. bodhi

    bodhi Obsessed with Boxing Full Member

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    Mine too. I also rate Ross higher but I look for arguments to push Canzoneri above him, if here are any.
     
  6. Kal

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    I agree with either is justified.

    McLarnin is one of my all time favs, his resume is top class. He finished his career on a high, bowing out by avenging the Canzoneri defeat & beating Lou Ambers, this after his trilogy with Ross an knocking Young Corbettt lll out in the first round.

    I've been a fan since watching his rubber match with Ross on and old VHS i have tucked away somewhere. 'fantastic fights of the century' an learning he was born a few miles from were i was born. He rised through a few more weights than the other guys.

    Tho I would like to get my hands on some more footage of the other two.
     
  7. GPater11093

    GPater11093 Barry Full Member

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    Aye, you will enjoy them. Canzoneri is such a great fighter to watch and dare I say it at times looks better than Ross.
     
  8. Duodenum

    Duodenum Boxing Junkie Full Member

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    I do have Canzi, then Ross, then McLarnin, in that order.
     
  9. Stonehands89

    Stonehands89 Boxing Junkie Full Member

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    They are the Fistic Trinity. The supreme representatives of the great, three-way ethnic rivalry during the golden era between the Jews, Italians, and Irish.

    ...And they're really tough to rank.
     
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  10. Dempsey1238

    Dempsey1238 Boxing Junkie Full Member

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    why is Ross being rank below Canzi?? Ross was 2-0 against him, and won the rematch pretty easy on my card.
     
  11. Dempsey1238

    Dempsey1238 Boxing Junkie Full Member

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    Looks didnt get a win over Ross in 2 attemps though, the Ross jab was too much for Canzi to surpast.
     
  12. Bummy Davis

    Bummy Davis Obsessed with Boxing Full Member

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  13. My2Sense

    My2Sense Boxing Junkie Full Member

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    I usually have him ranked the lowest TBH. At the very least, I can't see an argument for ranking him above Ross, who was 2-0 against him, has a better record against common opponents, and was more consistent in general.
     
  14. bodhi

    bodhi Obsessed with Boxing Full Member

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    But Canzoneri was also the naturally smaller man, had more fights and wear and tear when they fought and he climbed more weightclasses. These could be arguments.
     
  15. burt bienstock

    burt bienstock Obsessed with Boxing Full Member

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    Three great, fighters in an age of great competiton....I agree Canzoneri was the lightest of the 3, and I am certain , that since the incomparalble Benny Leonard ,Canzoneri in prime, along with Armstrong,Ross. Ike Williams, Duran, and ,yes Shane Mosely, were the best lightweights...In person Ike Williams, when allowed to, was the best lightweight, since Canzoneri, at ringside, that I,ve seen...Murderous puncher was Ike......