Bantamweight Survey (POLL CLOSED)

Does that really come as a shock? I rate him among my top 20 fighters of all time, of course he's my #1 Bantam.

Let's see yours.

 

Of course, same with McGovern.

Yeah, he can be a doozy.

 

1. Eder Jofre
2. Terry McGovern
3. George Dixon
4. Ruben Olivares
5. Manuel Ortiz
6. Panama Al Brown
7. Carlos Zarate
8. Bud Taylor
9. Pete Herman
10. Joe Lynch

Rustled up very quickly. Honourable mentions to Harada, Moore, Williams and Escobar.

EDIT: Moved Zarate up to 7, Taylor and Herman as a result down one place each.

 

I love this pick. He's in my antechamber with the other 11-20 guys...Rose, Herman, Taylor, Medel etc.

McGovern and Dixon got their love (rightly so) at FW, so to be perfectly honest I barely gave them consideration.

Anybody taking serious exception with the backend of my ten should have a gander at the quality and length of their peak runs at 118 and think about what kind of head to head force each represented in their prime. You pit that bottom four against any four oldtimers that I left off in a tournament, and you've got no great gulf in class and no clear favorite.

Intentional avoidance of giving credit to more recent or even contemporary competitors just because they're recent or contemporary will yield every bit as ill-informed a list as intentionally not researching the oldtimers.

 

I think the gulf between the greats of the division and Marquez/Hasegawa is pretty clear. Marquez, in my opinion, got out-boxed by a smaller "Too Sharp" Johnson on the decline. I wouldn't give him much of a chance against someone like Lionel Rose for instance, whom you left off. It just doesn't seem logical to rank someone like Hasegawa that highly when you even took a guy like Rose into consideration. Different class of fighter the way I see it.

 

This list was super hard to do, I'm still not happy with it.

 

1 Jofre
2 Olivares
3 Zarate
4 Ortiz
5 Herman
6 Brown
7 Harada
8 McGovern
9 Dixon
10 Taylor
Not really happy with those after the first 7 .
McGovern and Dixon ,are we rating them objectively or not?
Rose maybe should be here,also Lynch and Bowker,What about Kid Williams ? Castillo was a good fighter also Medel, oh **** ,I might change some later.

 

Meaning?

 

Both had legacies at feather weight , though Dixon was really only a bantam there.I find it hard to rate them , because of this.
I wasn't questioning others rankings, I have enough trouble rationalising my own to myself

 

with the exception of jofre,zarate,olivares,pintor and zamora i know very little about the bantams.i'd put jofre at the top though

 

Terry McGovern,George Dixon,Eder Jofre,Pete Herman,Manuel Ortiz,Bud Taylor,Carlos Zarate,Reuben OlivaresJoe Lynch, and Fighting Harada....I picked theoldtimers because theyvfought in a real tough era, and were able to go 15 to 20 rounds, if their opponents survived....Tough choices to make though...

 

I suspect it probably is in order. Are the survey's usually open this long?