Primes: Evander Holyfield vs. Floyd Patterson

See you just did it again! As if you know my take for something better than I do (Or the person you're arguing with).

You ask them about it and then propose opposing statements about it to twist the meaning and wording of things. Tricky tricky, but I'm on to you.

 

But Foreman beat the count.

Foreman was dead tired.

And Tyson was more elusive.

If the situation were reversed. Do you think Holyfield doesn't KO Foreman if we place him in the middle of the 6th round of the fight (After just fighting 6 rounds against Tyson just to make it fair for George), then we take Ali and place him against Tyson. Does Ali really stop Tyson?

 

Don't get it twisted (Pun intended).

But you did do it again with the last sentence. Are you not aware of it?

 

He got up at the count of 9.

When did I say he wasn't fresh?

Thanks to Holyfield's great technical pin-point accurate shots.

Do you agree that a comeback Foreman had a better chin?

Due to being more relaxed.

Conserving his energy.

And the added weight and strength in his legs.

AND not draining himself like Saddler did to him in the via 70's.

 

Mcvey was warning me about this I think.

I should've got the message.

Whatever you do... turn off the Braveheart and put down the face-paint.

 

Just trying to pour some petrol on the fire,its cold here in the South East of the UK.:yep
Seriously ,
No warning, I like Mac, he is a fine poster.
Be nice guys,don't want you getting like Mendoza and me.

 

I'm just messing with you man.

 

I gots to go soon but...

With Foreman, many men probably could've stopped him. He was not running in Zaire and was dead tired by round 6 and 7.

I think this needs to be factored more than you factor it. Jimmy Young dropped Foreman. Jimmy Young hit like a fly. Foreman's durability is top notch. Was it mostly stamina against Young... definitely.

Ali should be credited for KOing or stopping George. But Foreman was tired, and unofficially beat the count. That's the truth.

 

No I didn't say that.. You need to slow down, read posts more carefully and try to understand where people are coming from rather than to constantly think about your next attack. I said that those knockouts were attributed to OTHER FACTORS besides just power, punching ability or the chins in question, not that he didn't deserve credit for them...

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In the same context that Ali did by wearing them down or letting one of them punch themeselves out? Sure... Why couldn't he?

Where in the hell do you arrive at these conclusions?