Why Was Crowd Turn Out For Leonard V Norris So Bad

Someone answer my question above.

 

It was the SPEED!!!!!

 

It don't need explaining.

 

Why thankee guv'ner:good

Have you noted the SILENCE from 99.99% of the sugarbitches only MAG1968 has had the nuts to put a fair comment being a SRL fan himself:smoke

 

probably and yeah you are right, but I do not understand how with Hearns and Duran (even though he should have lost to Hearns it was a close fight) he fought well, and then against Norris over a year later he fell apart. The weight had to be a small factor since Hearns moved up and beat Virgil Hill. I am not into excuses much, but Ray didn't look strong and Norris beat him up. Ray fell apart when the speed left him. He just couldn't generate power like Hearns or Duran did after, which let them extend their careers when they were older. Ray played so many games as he got older that in a way the Norris fight just caught up to him. He thought he handpicked the right guy with a weak chin and he would have the 154 pound title and then fight Chavez or something, and he handpicked a fast guy who took him apart. It was sad. The microphone thing at the end of the fight was ridiculous a little. More theatrics from Ray.

 

Thanks. Well Ray did play games even leading into the Hagler fight. People were fed up with him by 1991. Getting Marvin to fight rusty and bigger gloves and Lalonde with the 2 titles at 168 when Lalonde was a 175 pound champ, then having Tommy get down to 164 pounds to weaken him in June of 1989. It was all games to get an advantage. He was still a great fighter. I don't think he needed all that, but he thought he did. I still remember him grabbing the microphone at the end of his fight with Norris and saying this is it, I don't have it anymore. Norris was looking at him like "you just ruined my postfight party".

 

My god...Leonard catches some **** in the Classic.

 

Rightfully deserved. I loathe the guy as well..
And what a shame... Since I think he is above amazing as a fighter.....




Andrey

 

And Leo. NEVER had the diehard fans of a guy like Duran or Ali. You're right, Leonard went from "homecookin" as Dundee called him to being an arrogant corporate type that had to have things his own way before he fought.:rasta

 

MAG1965 is right. People were tired of Leonard's manipulative behavior. He made Floyd Mayweather look like a saint. Norris was actually an underdog for the fight. I remembering watching Leonard spar at a gym on eight ave and 41st street (now gone) and look terrific, knocking his sparring partner down. However, the fight was a mismatch. The worst beating Ray ever took. I am still surprised he did not go down as Norris could really swat and kicked the crap out of him. To Ray's credit he took it like a champ when he easily could have quit.

 

Norris wasn't a big enough name

 

i dunno mate. norris was nobody. 26-3 against only 2 notable opponants getting sparked royally agaisnt jackson. and knocking out mugabi on almost non televised air....he wasnt suppose to win that fight really, pretty sure norris was the 'opponant' not the other way round.

leonard claiming another belt to proove he was one top after to pretty poor examples agaisnt hearns and leonard.

 

Ray fought the wrong guy in 1991. A young champion who was at 154. Bad decision. And then with Camacho he was just too old and had not had a win in almost 10 years. He should have fought Camacho in 1991, he would have won then, but Norris was too sharp and great at that weight. Too bad Ray became selfish and started to handpick and play games. At the big fights in the late 1980's Hearns and Duran would get big applause and Leonard would get boos.

 

Well I sure don't give Leonard any sort of pass on those Norris/Camacho bouts. The huge thing with Norris was it was a complete role reversal for Ray and the first time ever he had to wear those shoes. It's always interesting to see how a guy handles it and if they can compensate with their slowed reflexes and still find a way to win.

 

Leonard was expected to win. He was the betting favorite, more than a 2-1 favorite. KO Magazine called it the Upset of the Year.