Mayweather was just on ESPN news

all this happened before the fight was signed, and nowhere does it say Cotto would have been stripped if he came in at 146 or 147, because he wouldn't have.

 

And if Pac beats Clottey the name most mentioned will be Floyd. What's your point? Obviously they are the two biggest stars in the sport and would both make the most money fighting each other, but saying Floyd needs Pac is dumb when Floyd's upcoming fight is turning out to be much bigger than Pac's.

They can both make money without one another. They would both make money with one another. Nothing more to say.

 

It says the title was going on the line at a catchweight and if Cotto didn't agree he would be stripped, what's so hard to understand about that?

 

there's obviously something hard to understand about it cause you're not understanding it.

The fight is set at a catchweight, and the title must go on the line. If Cotto refuses to put the title on the line, he will be stripped. But if he accepts to put the title on the line and weighs in over the catchweight limit but below the WW limit, he will not be stripped. And nowhere in there does it say that he will. He will still have to pay the contractual penalty to Pacquiao though, which is the whole idea of the catchweight.

 

There was a verbal agreement in place by July 20th.

http://sports.espn.go.com/sports/boxing/news/story?id=4341913

The WBO came in AFTER this agreement and stated that Cotto had to put his title on the line in this fight. They made Pac his mandatory challenger. If he pulled out of the fight he could very well be stripped or have to vacate for backing out of a fight with his mandatory.

Likewise if he came in overweight the WBO COULD strip him for failing to make the contracted weight for his mandatory title challenge. The article I quoted said exactly that, you just choose to somehow think that they use the phrase overweight to mean two entirely different things within the space of one line.

 

You're missing the part where Pac is also his mandatory.

 

I've never mentioned him coming in over weight or being stripped over it, the point I am making is that the fight was set at a catchweight to disadvantage Cotto with his title to go on the line even though he didn't want it too, if he didn't agree to put his 147 title on the line at a catchweight of 145 he would be stripped of the belt.

There has been nothing to say he will be stripped if he came in overweight, just that he will have to pay $1m for every pound over the catchweight.

Cotto was stitched up basically.

 

Like saying if you come in at 147 you will make 10 million instead of 12 million (which is what he ended up making), but either way your title must be on the line.

sounds fair to me. I don't see what Cotto would gain by not putting his title on the line. I mean the title makes the fight a bigger promotion overall by allowing Manny to go for a record 7th belt. More money for everyone. Cotto gains nothing by hiding his belt in his closet while he goes out to fight a smaller man at a catchweight.

 

This post makes me sad for you

 

He didn't want to put his title on the line as he said 145 wasn't a catagory, so the WBO make him the number one contender so they've got Cotto by the balls, he either fights for the belt at a catchweight or gets stripped.

Yet that sounds fair to you?atsch

 

I tried to explain that to everyone.

Arum assraped Cotto in favor of Pac.

Cotto gave up everything he did not want to give up.

No where did I read that Pac gave up any of his share to compensate Cotto for his trouble.

Im not even sure Cotto understands all this. He was too proud in his own drive and talent to say that **** was not right and refuse the fight.

 

Here are the ring rankings for 1-10 for 2008:

1. Timothy Bradley
2. Junior Witter
3. Andriy Kotelnik
4. Paul Malignaggi
5. Herman Ngoudjo
6. Kendall Holt
7. Ricardo Torres
8. Juan Urango
9. Marcos Rene Maidana
10. Juan Lazcano

Out of those guys Hatton had fought number 4, 8, and 10. Not bad, by any stretch, but obviously the only reason he was considered the best is that he'd barely beaten Tyzsu 4 years ago to pick up the linear title, and had then largely sat on it, fighting only a little more than once per year in his division. By 2009 there were clearly fresh, talented fighters in the division and Hatton was "the best" largely by virtue of being inactive at the weight and fighting light hitters like Malignaggi and Lazcano.

 

Like I said, Cotto should have known better than to expect to fight at 145 and not put his title on the line when Pac was the guy sitting in the driver's seat during the negotiations. Doesn't mean Arum and the WBO didn't **** him though.

 

Oh...That's a problem???

yet in ESB...there are 20-30 a day SHITING on Floyd!!!

What's the difference???

You don''t think reading these Shitty-ass threads saying "THE SAME ****" about Floyd gets old????

 

I don't think they ****ed him. I think it was a fair deal.

Yes Pac got a shot at a WW title against a guy who was drained down to 145, but Cotto also got a shot at greatness against a guy who was balooned up to 145.