Does anyone honestly believe Hopkins could have beat Jones anytime between 1998-2002

Hopkins would have beaten Jones had he moved up to LHW earlier in his career

 

Reasonable and many interesting points. :good

 

Classic Jones rubbish from so called Jones experts :

From 98 -02

Jones vs :

Virgil Hill
Lou DeValle
Otis Grant
Richard Frazier
Reggie Johnson
David Telesco
Richard Hall
Derick Harmon
Julio Ceasar Gonzalez
Glen Kelly
Clinton Woods

hell of a handpicked and mediocre list !


Hopkins wouldn't of toched him ..Wonder who he fought around 98 -02

Lets see;

Robert Allen
Robert Allen
Antwon Echols
Syd Vanderpool
Antwon Echols
Kieth Holmes
Tito Trinidad
Carl Daniels

Yeah murderers row ...I love how Jones just fought policemen and garbage men but Hopkins is looked at as if never fought quetsionable fights !

 

About right:good

 

Hill was old as hell, Grant was awful, Frazier was awful, Hall was a joke, Harmon was awful, Glen Kelly was a sanitation worker for christ sakes, and Woods was exposed as being nothing but a British level fighter. That list is a joke. Not to mention Del Valle put Jones on his ass.

Are you serious trying to act like that was some competition? One guy was an off duty cop and another was a garbage man. :roflatsch

 

More of your crazy bull****.... Hill was old as hell? Do you even know how old he was? He was the exact same age as Roy was when in your words Roy was "exposed" by Tarver.... Its funny though you give Hill the benefit of the doubt when it comes to age. Especially since you are still very hard on Roy for getting knocked out at the age of 41.

Did you know that he went the distance with DM 8 months before Roy knocked him out in the 4th with a crushing body shot?... Did you know he also went on to win a Cruiserweight belt after Roy beat him?

Clinton Woods was also a very good fighter.

I can't believe you would bring up Lou Del Vaulle.... Are you serious? Did you even see the fight? Roy beat the **** out of him.

 

He was fighting off duty cops and sanitation workers. This is a fact. How do you excuse that? Jones is a Glass Jawed fraud. Always has been and always will be. Oh and was also caught using Anabolic Steroids during this time period.

 

fact is jones had at least comparable or better resume than hopkins for those years. hopkins is now a legend and roy is a joke? **** that.

 

If they came in at their best Jones would win.

 

No.

No version of BHop beats Jones. Not even shitty Jones. He isn't aggressive enough.

 

No. I think prime RJJ is very possibly the toughest h2h fighter in the history of the sport, and he was still very very good when he first stepped to light heavy. I also don't think he had a soft chin in 1998, imho that is more the result of age and immobility. When you think about it, Tarver hit him absolutely dead flush with that left hand - not many boxers would have been standing up after that - and he also cracked the back of his head very badly when he went down. It took a long beating from Glencoffe before he fell but it was a shot to the back of the head that did it. I think that KO v Tarver gave him some neurological damage. He was able to take plenty of leather from Ruiz, no way would he stand up to that post-Tarver.

 

No.

 

im firm beliver instyles make fights an roys foot work in those times to good an keeps from in fighting an wins an even at his deteriating state still has beter chance than most think

 

Rico have you stopped stalking Jones ??All you can use is Kelly& Fraizer but stop acting like these guys were bums and your talking about Jones slip against Devalle I love how u exaggerate the truth ..Your a fool and your igrnoarnce is dispalyed in every Jones thread thats posted !

Now go sit in the corner and wait for another thread on Jones so u can spit your glass jaw nonesense because around here thats all your good for !