Freddie Roach: "This could be our last fight" ~ Listen In

Not as ridiculous as refusing a 14-day window... especially after saying that they wouldn't agree to anything closer than like 5 or 7 days...


what a turnabout...

 

Are you stupid?

Silly question! A 24 day cut off would be completely pointless. So would a 14 day cut off in effect but at least that would only give Pac 14 days to juice.

 

This is better. I agree. Blatantly saying: he refused to be tested "or" until he passes a test he's guilty.. is idiocy.

... Roach and Pacquiao are two different person. He's a great trainer but he blabbers things and haters say it's also Top Rank/Pacquiao's stand too. His use of words are easily misinterpreted, he's bad for Pacquiao's PR. His 5 days statement is his opinion. A trainer isn't part of fight negotiation - manager/promoter/fighter (who has the final say) are the ones.

 

Happy with your response. So long as we agree that a TESTING OFFER from Pacquiao's side was offered that had been accepted by FMJ's negotiation team - the fight is ON for March 13, but that offer got refused for 40M+.

(Not that im siding with Arum+Pac, they're "equally" idiot for having too much pride to not agree to 14-days for 40M+, just saying the other side of the coin you haters / bias refuse to see)

 

OK. Agree to disagree. I am definitely not a hater though. Up until the random testing nonsense I was a loyal Pacquiao fan. Was kind of hoping Floyd would back out of the fight because I felt Floyd would embarrass him. However this whole situation has completely changed my view. I have little doubt that there is something to hide. No-one is stupid enough to turn down $40 million for pride.

 

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Which drug is it that Pac could effectively use 24 days within and not get caught by a random urine test?

not EPO, not HGH, not anabolic steroids... which one?

 

A loyal Pacfan who was hoping Floyd would back out because he felt Floyd would embarass Pac? LOL don't lie to yourself.

 

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I think this statement by PED expert Victor Conte best answers your question:

''In my opinion, blood testing for the Pacquiao-Mayweather fight is more important for detecting possible blood doping or use of EPO than it is for human growth hormone. Measuring hematocrit levels (percentage of red blood cells to total whole blood volume) is very important. For example, even without a positive urine test for EPO,cyclists are temporarily suspended for two weeks if their hematocrit is greater than 50%. An elevated hematocrit can provide a significant advantage to a fighter by enhancing oxygen uptake and utilization. This would benefit a fighter in training and especially during the later rounds of a fight."

Entire article: http://www.doghouseboxing.com/DHB/Kim122509.htm

 

las fight for pac?? a big NO...
he's not a sure win for the congressional sit.. filipinos wants him in boxing not politics...

 

basically what that means is that before doing a urine test for EPO, they do a blood test on the cyclists to measure hematocrit levels. If the blood test raises eyebrows, then they can suspend the cyclist and procede to urine tests to confirm use of EPO.

But with Pac vs PBF, since their are only 2 candidates, they can just go right ahead and confirm using the urine test. The blood test is unnecessary.

If you look at the World Anti-Doping Agency website (who sets the standards for Olympic-style drug testings), you'll see that EPO abuse is confirmed through urine testing, not blood testing.

 

I not so sure of Pac stopping Clottey. I mean Pac stopped cotto in the 12th and Clottey is a more durable guy, he is bigger with better defense. Someone mentioned how Clottey does not hold and tie up at all so that could be a problem if he gets staggered but that is a big if. Also clottey is not the type to look for knockouts so he will be going in planning on going 12 rounds which is a different mindset than DLH, Hatton and Cotto had so he will not leave himself as open to counters throwing wild power shots.


I think with the proper strategy, a good training camp and a smart trainer who could come up with the right plan to utilize Clottey's physical advantages, Clottey would be capable of beating Pac but under the circumstances for this fight, I have to go with Pac UD. He has too much speed and Clottey isnt active enough.

Really I think Clottey should try to back up Pac, see if he can fight going backwards. Clottey aint going to win being stagnant and letting Pac move around jumping in and out of range. Keep his defense tight and walk him down would be an interesting strategy but I dont think he will end up doing that.

 

There is no argument. An expert himself says the best way to catch a user is through random, unannounced blood testing. It's plain and simple. I don't know how you can argue against that, unless you can prove to me you have better knowledge and more credibility than Conte. Sorry, but I'm going to choose an expert's opinion over yours. No offense.

 

I'm not stating an opinion i'm taking the facts straight off the World Ant-Doping Agency website.

You can trust Conte over WADA, but I'd rather trust the World Anti-Doping Agency over Victor Conte.

to each his own.