Kostya Tszyu 1996

Discussion in 'Classic Boxing Forum' started by thejokerswild, Feb 16, 2010.


  1. A lot of people say he is over rated and maybe justifiably so, but watching these clips show a champion fighter and a faithful and dedicated trainer in Johnny Lewis.

    He was disciplined, focused, brilliant student destined for a bright future. The Russian Machine.

    [ame]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=OBW3lJNlmDQ&feature=related[/ame]

    [ame]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=DxmuwGeS6i0&feature=related[/ame]
     
  2. This video also illustrates the first fight i ever went to as a kiddie. Amazing experience.
     
  3. lefthook31

    lefthook31 Obsessed with Boxing banned

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    What is Tsyzus best win Zab Judah? I think he is overated a bit in fantasy fights, but his record kind of speaks for itself in my opinion. He was a very strong fighter at 140 which compensated for some of his shortcomings, but a good overall technical fighter with a limited arsenal.
     
  4. Pachilles

    Pachilles Boxing Addict Full Member

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    Kostya Tszyu has a really cool sounding name, and also sported that lil pony tail, that made him look like Jet Li in Lethal Weapon 4, a total badass. They were my thoughts watching him as a kid anyway.

    He's just one of those guys though, that you see and arent greatly impressed with him technically in terms of ATG, then BOOM you're KTFO because you got laxidasical with an accurate nuclearwarhand southpaw
     
  5. lefthook31

    lefthook31 Obsessed with Boxing banned

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    He wasnt a southpaw
     
  6. Rattler

    Rattler Middle Aged Man Full Member

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    There's a small, but very vocal minority that severely overrates Tszyu... and a small, but very vocal minority that hates him for it and severly underrates him. A fairly common phenomena amongst fight fans, but mostly, he's a respected talent who had some pretty good wins, but he simply didn't fight enough when he was the king at 140 to cement his status as more than just the ruler of a good but not great division. Somewhat along the lines of what happened to Hopkins after Toney and Jones Jr. left for SMW.

    The lingering effects of going out on his stool I think is held against him, though.
     
  7. teeto

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    I always thought that Tszyu gets a raw deal on here to be honest. I really liked him in his prime. I don't get carried away though.
     
  8. zadfrak

    zadfrak Boxing Junkie Full Member

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    A road warrior & did everything the hard way. And he was put in deep real early in his career & was taking on tough hombres right off the bat. Probably lasted as long as anyone at the top with that elbows out style.
     
  9. Do you think that he might of burnt out? I think it might of been because of a lot of hype at the time could of led him to think he didn't need to continue outdoing a great early start. (something like that)

    He did go out on his stool but he also said he was coming back like Nas did but never followed through. Could Tszyu of fought more Mexican Fighters?

    Tszyu is a little bit of a mystery
    for me. Maybe his career was over shadowed by a generation of immense talent?
     
  10. Rattler

    Rattler Middle Aged Man Full Member

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    A little burn out, but the issue between some injuries and not being able to find a big money fight sort of wore on him. His relationship with his management team was also an issue. He never struck me as a guy who fought out of a need to compete, so much as that was his means by way of making a future for himself.
     
  11. Thats a good point, he came from soviet russia to start a new life for himself. Boxing was probably more a means for fiscal life than atg. Although in Australia, he was a massive sporting figure. Still a guest appearance type guy.
     
  12. lefthook31

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    Anyone remember the piece they did during one of his fights where his three year old son broke his fathers jaw with a leftthook?
     
  13. Gesta

    Gesta Well-Known Member Full Member

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    I have never heard that before.

    His son Timmothy is a pretty good amateur, about 16 years old.
     
  14. Russell

    Russell Loyal Member Full Member

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    Hard to overrate a guy in a division as weak as 140 has been, he's a ATG by the relative standards of his division any way you want to cut it.
     
  15. teeto

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    The division has had some fine fighters though. I get what you're saying i think though, that most eras have not been too strong and that such fine fighters have had a difficult time building up a great resume.

    Still to me, Cervantes, Pryor, Locche, Ortiz, Loi, Perkins, Tszyu, Canzoneri, Chavez, Whitaker, even De La Hoya are all at the great level of effectiveness at this weight.