Roy Jones is underrated

If Hall was D Class that would make Michalczewski a D+ class fighter, why are people complaining about Jones not fighting a D+ class fighter

 

You are a sharp mofo. He also held his own against DM Insert Mateen in there then and dont tell me Mateen beat Telesco, eh hem which he did.

 

Toney had a close fight with Johnson but he won most of the rounds after the 4/5. Im not debating Johnson was not a good fighter he beat Steve Collins but he was past his best when he fought Roy.

You know the other guys were not solid wins so i dont know why your attempting to prop them up to make Roy look good,just call it as you see it.

Michael Bent won a title belt FFS,so what does that say?

No if he had beaten/fought Tarver at that point this would be a non issue.

 

By all accounts Hall lost so what point are you proving here.

 

I know they're not great wins but they are decent enough ones, anyone can pick out wins that arent the greatest of someones resume.

Its not abdnormal for boxers managers to negotiate with the governing bodies about mandatores. But I find it seriously hard to believe tarver was a mandatory with his level of competition. All he had to do was beat Harding and he'd have got his shot at Roy. The fact he couldnt do that then speaks volumes

It all worked out very well for Tarver, if he gotschooled then he'd never have got another shot. He had to buckle down to get his payday/title shot, he worked hard, got better schooled and experienced beating some quality contenders and got to fight a faded version of Jones Jr and propelled to mega stardom

 

Because when fighters are competitive and fight closely with world champions its hard to classify them as D class. Jones was fighting these guys as mandatories or for titles. Tarver was unproven at that time, and blew it when he was in a position to get a mandatory shot at Jones, thats Jones fault??

 

Michalczewski needed rescuing by his corrupt officials in the first fight, looked like hall was edging out a UD, hence the rematch. Hall won the event in the first fight.

 

Hey, good post. Thats exactly right. Harding showed Tarver he had a ways to go before facing Jones. That fight was the best thing that happened for Tarver, who was known to be very very lazy.

 

Anyone can!! pick out wins that arent the greatest of someones resume but Roy just seems to have more than a few and its more HL because there were certain fighters people wanted to see him fight, now im not gonna go through this Roy said on HBO this that and the other but these are the best opponents Roy could find to fight,Hall Frazier etc? then we have this BS with Tarver ?

I have seen the Tarver/Harding fight and Murrad Muhammad is interviewed before the fight and explains the situation as it was reported so it must be true.

I respect Roy but i do wish he had fought better comp throughout his career, not that his resume is poor because its strong when you take it on its overall value.:good

 

Again some were mandatory challengers. Its very difficult to hold onto all three titles. Hall who was promoted by Don King was a WBC defense.

 

Because when fighters are competitive and fight closely with world champions its hard to classify them as D class.


Why, i saw Dan Schommer outbox Chris Eubank and i aint pretending he was a solid fighter. Hall was C class at best if you think D class is undervaluing him.


Thadiz outworked James Toney, Tiberi outworked him but i would'nt make them out to be something they aren't.

 

Fair play but if you were on a guaranteed $8million and wouldnt make any more regardless of the opponent, would you choose opponent A who you may be able to beat but would likely bust your nose and ive you headaches for 6weeks after, or opponent B you could run rings round and beat easily?

Jones didnt have any natural super fights at 175lbs, a Michalczewski just wasnt worth that much money unfortunately, and didnt have any incentives to make massive fights either.

Although from what I've read Michalczewski, Eubank, Collins, Hopkins (rematch) were all offered fights amongst others. And at the end of the day if you look at the light heavyweight top10 ranking from 1998-2003, Jones fought and beat most of them

 

Im not disputing that but i dare say Roy could still of made a conscious decision to find better alternatives,Roy decides to get opponent conscious when he sees a talented Olympian he Boxed in the amateurs and by all accounts had a close fight with?

 

Who at LH? He did fight Tarver and beat him the first time. He could have left it at that. I had him winning razor close.

 

I dont know but im not going to delude myself into thinking he beat the only alternatives and that they happened to be the most talented alternatives he could find.

I also had Roy Jones winning.