Benn making it CLEAR he wanted Jones Jr

Benn never beat any boxers, and he had to rabbit punch McClellan to beat him.

 

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Go watch the two videos then come back here and admit you're wrong.

 

It is a youtube video... It has been posted on here a million times... I have tried to find it and cant.

It is before Roy's fight with Brannon, his last fight at SMW... Hbo set up a special interview with Roy in the ring before the fight.

Hbo confirms that most of the elite fighters in the SMW were offered a contract to fight Roy, all turned it down... Among the names off the top of my head were Nigel Benn and Frankie Liles.

 

Did steve collins turn up at a rjj press conference and call him out too? I think i heard that somewhere.

 

Its not like Roy would have received any credit for beating Benn then anyways. Benn was past it, he lost to Malinga shortly there after for Christ sakes, Roy would have smoked him.

 

And you think Benn 'got up' for Malinga the way he would have for RJJ do you?

Roy would have smoked him? Very possible, but your words doesn't make it so.

I'm pretty sure if Roy had retired and never fought Tarver you'd also be saying - "Roy would have smoked him".

 

I probably would have, until I saw him walking into the ring after dropping weight... He did not look right, his body has looked frail ever since he dropped the weight. People say that is an excuse, but coming from me, someone that has seen every Jones fight growing up, he has not looked the same ever since he lost the weight. I am not talking about in the ring either, his face has not looked right, it really aged him.

As for comparing a prime Jones smoking a past it Benn to past it Jones smoking Tarver, im not quite sure what you mean there.

 

BTW I'm agreeing with you RJJ all the way (I've also seen all his and Benn's fights)

My Tarver comment still stands though.
The only reason RJJ never got ko'd early was that amazing reflex action, the ability to roll away from shot etc, the chin was still vunerable imo.

For the time period we're talking about Benn didn't have much left, I agree, but the man still had power and when called upon could be relentless with pressure add to the fact he's quoted as saying 'I'll be up for this like a mother', I think he could would have came in better shape than expected.

Benn of the mid-late 90's was 4-5 years past prime but could still bob and weave some too, and if he caught Jones, which he would have at some point it would make it damn interesting. Remember upto the McLellan fight his only 2 loses were to prime Eubanks/Watson, nothing to be ashamed of.

I'm still picking RJJ late tko/ud but wouldn't be massively surprised if Benn caught him.

 

pavlik is similiar to McClellan

 

I am not disagreeing that Jones vs. Benn would have been an interesting fight, actually one of my favorite mythical fights, which is sad It did not happen. You are totally right about that.

I just feel that Benn was past his best when he made the statement, and Roy was still prime.

Where I disagree, is Jones' chin.

Yeah he had an amazing reflex to getting punched but was occasionally cracked in the jaw. Even by a Heavyweight, that knocked down Holyfield while Jones was about 30 lbs smaller.

Jones did not start showing weakness in punch resistance until he was around the age of 34 or 35, the same age that Virgil Hill was while Roy haters discredit Roy's victory for Hill being "Old as Hell" and call Roy "exposed" even though Hill did not win a title at Heavyweight and drop back down before Roy knocked him out.

 

There's no way to tell from simply an interview who really wants to fight whom. Interviews are just interviews, fights are made in negotiations, the whole "call out" process just gives blue-balls to press conference boxing fans.

People want to say "Benn ducked Jones" or vice versa, and this is the case for most fights that don't take place, but there's most likely a lot of stuff that goes on behind the scenes. ****ing bull**** politics.

Jones or Benn saying they want to fight each other is a totally different case than say, Aaron Pryor saying straight up after fighting Lennox Blackmoore that the fight with Ray Leonard fell apart because Leonard only offered $500,000. That's details about negotiations, where it really matters.

 

i agree.

 

Good Post.....

I don't think Jones ducked Benn, I don't think Benn ducked Jones....
If i remember correctly Don King was involved....

 

We agree on most thing except Jones punch resistance.
Jones in all his fights only got hit full whack once or twice, he was that good. I find it hard to say his resistance dropped due to weight loss etc because for me Jones punch resistance only became noticable when he started getting hit more often which like you say was around the 35 year mark, the same time his speed and reflexes started slowing.

We'll just have to agree to disagree mate. Been good having a debate without insults flying for a change.

BTW the Hill win was ****ing great no matter what the detractors say. That body shot was a thing of beauty.:good