Now that the dust has settled and floyd is facing the tougher comp......

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  1. eze

    eze Everybody Know Me Full Member

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    No, I dont think manny is on anything.

    BUT, Pac is acting like if he is on something by all his questionable moves.
     
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  2. eliqueiros

    eliqueiros Boxing Junkie Full Member

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    No. I don't think he's dirty. Why would I believe he was so just because Floyd Sr. talked his usual **** talk. If it wasn't for that old fart this fight with Pac would have happened. Pac has always proven clean.
     
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  3. eliqueiros

    eliqueiros Boxing Junkie Full Member

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    Floyd needed Manny more than Manny needed floyd legacy wise. Manny had already laid claim to his piece of the pie. Floyd went for the 38 year old fighter. Again, not to take anything away from Floyd, just saying, Pac is faster, prime, and imo more dangerous for Floyd than Mosley.
     
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  4. PetethePrince

    PetethePrince Slick & Redheaded Full Member

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    :lol:
     
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  5. Williams27

    Williams27 Boxing Addict Full Member

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    As far as I'm concerned Clottey is just as dangerous as Mosley at this point in Mosleys career.
     
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  6. Toontoon

    Toontoon Boxing Junkie banned

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    I'm of a similar opinion, it's the way they handled the situation that has raised doubts in people's minds, if they had just come out and so they wouldn't give blood tests within 30 days of the fight because it made Pac feel weak and stuck to it then they would have much more credibility than they have now.

    Instead they accepted the olympic style tests, only to go back on it as Arum claimed Pac was petrified of needles, ODLH asks how Pac can be scared of needles with all of those tattoos then Roach contradicts Arum by saying Pac isn't petrified of needles but feels weak for a few days after giving blood and a 5 day cut off would be fine, they then end up rejecting a 14 day cut off with Pac claiming that taking blood doesn't seem natural to him and team Pac saying that the USADA work for Mayweather.:blood

    I genuinely think there are strong doubts from Roach/Arum that Pacquiao is able to beat Mayweather, so a postponement isn't the worst thing for them as it gives Arum more chance to milk his cash cow against another top rank fighter and Roach more time to work on a gameplan for Mayweather.
     
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  7. Toontoon

    Toontoon Boxing Junkie banned

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    No.
     
    Toontoon, Feb 17, 2010
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  8. hmi

    hmi Boxing Addict Full Member

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    If you only knew that random blood testing in the Olympics never caught any cheats...
     
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  9. BOSTONREDSOX

    BOSTONREDSOX The Ghost Full Member

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    your to ****in stupid to sue
     
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  10. kirk

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    :huh Gotta disagree with you there.... mosley has most of clotteys strengths in the ring, but also on top of that has his own potent dangers that clottey could only dream of.

    Mosley is every bit as tough, throws more punches, is more experienced, is faster, is more powerful, actually WINS fights and doesnt just make things close, has better killer instinct, the list goes on and on.

    We got to see how Mosley delt with Margarito as opposed to Clottey...

    Clotteys biggest wins are Judah and Corrales, could you imagine what Mosley vs Corrales at 147 would have looked like? And im willing to be that Mosley would have put a spectacular end to a fight with judah, vargas II style....

    Cant really see how you are going to take a defensive first, low activity, shell plodder like clottey and say hes just as dangerous as mosley. Clottey is a solid, solid fighter, and probably a bit underrated, but in no way is he as dangerous as mosley IMO.
     
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  11. Toontoon

    Toontoon Boxing Junkie banned

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    Yes and?

    Are you suggesting that just because people caught cheating by blood is minimal that they shouldn't bother blood testing, even though the USADA have said there are certain performance enhancing drugs that are only detectable through blood testing?
     
    Toontoon, Feb 17, 2010
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  12. Butterbee

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    :bbbLemmy just say this .... It's about time Fraud is fighting a real WW!!!! Now we will see how great he is or NOT!:bbb I think Gayweather gets tested in this fight and may see the canvas and we will see if he has HEART:happy
     
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  13. BigReg

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    Martinez is a better fighter than Clottey. But the main reason Cintron chose Martinez is because it was a higher payday. These guys don't fight just for the hell of it, it's their job. If the Clottey fight paid more money, Cintron would've taken that fight.
     
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  14. Rudyard

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    You keep saying this like it has some merit...and so what???? Just because it hasnt caught anything doesnt mean it wont detect any steriods...You dont know the outcome of test so why are bringing this up like it proves something?:-(

    Just because it has caught anything in the pass doesnt mean it wont in the future...How hard is that for you to understand?:patsch
     
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  15. kadyo

    kadyo Boxing Addict Full Member

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    Manny doesn't need floyd. It was floyd who walked away from 25million by making an impossible demandf. The fight isn't happening because floyd makes it impossible to happen. How can people not see that?
     
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