The most interesting hypothetical questions about the history of the HW division?

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  1. Unforgiven

    Unforgiven VIP Member banned Full Member

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    That's what I thought.
    Flojo was quick, but not as quick as Owens.
    I think Owens PB was 10.2
     
  2. Seamus

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    And only the most naive among us would consider her times unassisted.
     
  3. choklab

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    why is it champs go in or out of vouge? Often champs dismissed at the time but become apriciated by later generation when its been and done. why?
    why do certain myths (that would never pass much scruitiny at the time) grow years later?
     
  4. PetethePrince

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  5. janitor

    janitor VIP Member Full Member

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    The biggest question of all has to be:

    What if the colour bar had never been?
     
  6. McGrain

    McGrain Diamond Dog Staff Member

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    Yeah, for sure.

    Jackson beats Sullivan (at some point), Jackson and Corbett swap the title, Jeffries straigtens things out and then buries Johnson in '04. How's that for starters?
     
  7. Meast

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    Yeah I agree, just think of the fights that could have happened :tired
     
  8. PetethePrince

    PetethePrince Slick & Redheaded Full Member

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    :rofl
     
  9. janitor

    janitor VIP Member Full Member

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    It is a start, and indeed the ramifications would have gone far beyond the heavyweight division.
     
  10. Meast

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    It's no laughing matter :lol:
     
  11. cuchulain

    cuchulain Loyal Member Full Member

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    Quite right.

    We have to go back a little further for FloJo's time to have been faster than the men

    Don Lippincott held the fastest time in 1912 and he was slower than Flo.

    And the example, though mistakenly chosen, was not the main point.

    Rather, the point was that athletic times have been overall getting better.

    Bolt would have finished about 20 feet ahead of Owens.
     
  12. Seamus

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    What if the Iron Curtain (or Cuban Curtain) had never been, or to a lesser extent if South Africa had never been protested?
     
  13. Seamus

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    Every 100 meter record holder going back to Calvin Smith has either admitted being dirty or has been caught. Do you really think Bolt will break this streak?

    And even so, Bolt would not have finished 20 feet ahead on a dirt & cinder track where he had to dig his own start holes and race in crappy 1930's spikes.
     
  14. cuchulain

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    We don't know, but to suggest that he couldn't possibly be doing it without steroids is just plain slander, in the absence of evidence.
    (Similar to Mayweather's innuendo regarding Pac)

    And the 100 m event is but one of many.

    The mile record has fallen many times since Bannister broke the four minute mile.

    Nearly every athletic event has seen continuous improvement over time, with improvements in training and nutrition.

    The marathon is probably the most notable.

    To try to attribute all of the improvements to improved conditions and/ or 'juice' is a bit of a stretch.
     
  15. RockysSplitNose

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    :lol::lol::lol::lol:

    Probably Liston reigns until Foreman stops his old sparring master and Foreman doesn't get his bubble burst so is king until Tyson blasts the old man out (considering Jimmy Stewart or whatever his name was still visits that correctional facility in upstate new york)