david haye is gonna beat both kilts watch this

Discussion in 'World Boxing Forum' started by spiderdon, Feb 17, 2010.


  1. Serenata

    Serenata Fit und geimpft Full Member

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    I said it before and I say it now. I haven´t seen the contracts nor has anybody else in this forum (perhaps besides members of the Klitschko/Haye crew) so let´s not talk about things we don´t know. Fact is that Haye got what he wanted, the chance to fight both Klitschkos. Ha had the chance to become the No.1 HW in the world and Ring champ by beating Wlad and he chickened out. If I have that chance to get that I (as a well trained HW) would do it even for a Dollar (If I an really confident that I can win this). Besides how does it come that so many other fighters fought the Klitschkos and did not complain about the money or terms? And don´t say the other boxers got better deals....
     
  2. Ilesey

    Ilesey ~ Full Member

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    But you are happy to accuse Haye of faking a back injury.

    Fail. :deal
     
  3. Serenata

    Serenata Fit und geimpft Full Member

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    So what are the facts? Was it an injury? Was it just getting media attention? Was it because he was afraight to loose money? Was he afraight of the Klitschkos?

    What about the chance to fight Vitali after that? And don´t tell me Mount Valuev was the better opposition to become a great one...
     
  4. Loufatski

    Loufatski Boxing Junkie banned

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    I watched that fight over a cheesy internet stream. He did not lose.
     
  5. Serenata

    Serenata Fit und geimpft Full Member

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    He did about as good as Haye (running and trying to occasionally catch Valuev). The only differece is that King (or whoever is behind those matches) knew that he can make more money with Haye in the future than with Valuev or Holyfield.
     
  6. BoxingFanNo1

    BoxingFanNo1 Boxing Junkie Full Member

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    The facts I can present to you are:

    Exhibit A - Haye did break his hand, forward to 0:40

    [ame]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=I3fsXZLwjx0[/ame]

    Exhibit B - Haye-Valuev sold upto 800k ppv's in the UK earning Haye approx 4 Million (£5 from every £15 buy in the uk)

    http://www.telegraph.co.uk/sport/ot...nts-home-title-defence-against-John-Ruiz.html

    So I'll make this real easy for those of a lower IQ.

    Haye was offered $400,000 (about £250,000) + a two rematch clause for the Klits. Big risk **** reward.

    He got £4,000,000 (thats 16x what Klitschko offered) + a title with little risk.

    Now, for those figures who would you fight?
     
  7. BoxingFanNo1

    BoxingFanNo1 Boxing Junkie Full Member

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    Yes he did, you are a small minority.:good
     
  8. Serenata

    Serenata Fit und geimpft Full Member

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    @Boxing fan:

    1. I meant the back injury.
    2. Prove of the figures or irrelevant

    :)
     
  9. BoxingFanNo1

    BoxingFanNo1 Boxing Junkie Full Member

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    What does it matter? When Setanta pulled out Hayes PPV sale went with it and he was getting **** ££

    Back injury:

    http://www.guardian.co.uk/sport/blo...-wladimir-klitschko-injury-withdrawal-rumours

    "Nevertheless, we will know the extent of the injury when his trainer-manager Adam Booth provides medical proof for the champion's manager, Bernd Boent, and the sanctioning bodies, the WBO and IBF, in the next day or so. If it is not convincing, Klitschko, who has already had his patience tested by the loud Londoner, will be furious."

    Now, did the sanctioning bodies or Boent release a statement saying Hayes full of ****? No, which I'm sure they would have.

    Make of that what you will.:good
     
  10. BoxingFanNo1

    BoxingFanNo1 Boxing Junkie Full Member

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    Again I ask who would you fight,

    Vitali for £250,000 or Valuev for £4,000,000.

    Regardless of wether you feel Haye ducked or not, the figures make perfect sence for the decision he made.
     
  11. Jazzo

    Jazzo Non-Facebook Fag Full Member

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    Ruiz is past it.

    Shame on Haye for picking on the old warrior.

    Haye does nothing but hide behind fighters of the past.
     
  12. Serenata

    Serenata Fit und geimpft Full Member

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    Again I say,

    have you seen the contracts?

    All I see is that he twice had the chance to make a statement in fighting the two best HWs in the world and he didn´t. That just pisses me of, especially after all his talk.

    After such a fight all would have been settled and we didn´t have had that discussion :)
     
  13. RJD

    RJD Well-Known Member Full Member

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    If Haye's injury was illegitimate, why didn't K1 sue Haye for breach of contract?
     
  14. Serenata

    Serenata Fit und geimpft Full Member

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    I don´t blame Haye for fighting Ruiz, at least he is his mandatory. I just blame him for not having fought a Klitschko yet.