Jones, Toney, Hopkins, Calzaghe - ATG list

It's tough trying to put these guys in order. You could really make a case for all these guys being number for all different reasons. Though I find it hard to see how anyone would put Calzaghe in the number 1 spot, yes he never lost. Though during his prime he fought nobodies from 97-06, and only after the last couple years has he fought good competition.

I think Jones or Hopkins are good choices for number 1 imo. Hopkins for standing the test of time, being a top fighter and champ since 93. Jones for being one of the most talented and unbeatable middleweight in his prime.

 

You could also say Jones was the fighter of the 90th and he’s resume, is miles ahead of Calzaghes few good wins.
Legacy wise they are not even in the same league.



Toney on the other hand has fought best middle, super middle, cruiser and heavy weights in he’s career.
While Calzaghe wasted almost his whole career in one weight division, fighting for meaningless WBOgus belt.
When he finally changed a weight division, he did won light heavy title but he didn’t defend it against real light heavies even once.

Calzaghe was great fighter but he didn’t accomplish enough to bypass resumes of Jones, Toney or Hopkins

 

Jones
Calzaghe
Hopkins
Toney

 

Calzaghe - Undefeated Super-Middleweight who fought a lot of trash at times, but came through and unified the division then stepped up to claim the Light-Heavyweight title.


Hopkins - Good fighter but picked on smaller guys in his most defining victories and lost twice to Taylor, a fighter reknowned for having a disgraceful Glass Jaw.

Toney - Fat steroid-abusing disgrace.

Jones - Glass Jawed steroid-abusing disgrace and trinket collector who mostly fought binmen and sanitation workers.

 

Calzaghe
Jones
Toney/Hopkins

Its simple, calzaghe beat jones and hopkins. Jones beat hopkins and toney. Toney hopkins is a draw.


















































































Jk.

Jones
Hopkins
Toney


Calzaghe

 

1. Jones. Dont think he would have beat Calzaghe in his prime either, but achieved alot more, but there is always the question mark about PEDs. But MW, SMW, LHW & HW belt holder is a great run.

2. Toney. MW, SMW, CW and almost HW champ but stripped for PEDs

3. Calzaghe, long reigning SMW champ, won all the belts in the division and became LHW champ

4. Hopkins, long reigning MW champ won, all the belts in the division and became LHW champ. Good fighter but made his name (except for Tarver who had already been beaten 3 times) beating smaller fighters. Whenever he fought a top fighter his own size he lost ie Taylor twice, Jones and Calzaghe. Also priced himself out of fights with prime Jones and prime Calzaghe when fighting for less money

 

Hopkins
Jones
Calzaghe
Toney

 

Hopkins gets over rated simply for peaking at a late age and his achievements/wins being over blown because of it - Pavlik and Tarver are fine examples.

Lets not forget a supposedly prime hopkins did nothing in the fight with Jones (I saw no urgency when the fight was clearly slipping away from him) and drew with Segundo Mercado - then later on the losses to Jermain "the legend" Taylor.

As was pointed out earlier I cannot think of a guy Hopkins beat that Calzaghe would have struggled to do the same.

Jones
calzaghe
Hopkins
Toney

 

That is certainly not why he lost, though it was a factor. He would never have beaten Jones that night, no matter if he was in 100% condition.

 

i love how Calzaghe gets chastised for beating an old Hopkins/Jones yet Toney gets a get out of jail free card for being a fat ******* atsch:roflatsch:roflatsch:rofl

 

Jones - I am not a fan but his his prime he was on another level. Most naturally gifted fighter ever and beat Hopkins and Toney, so must rank higher.

Hopkins - Dominated a weak middleweight era but fought everyone that mattered at middleweight, did what Hagler wouldn't and Robinson couldn't do and jump from middle to light heavy and beat the No1 light heavyweight. Still world class in his mid forties.

Toney - Was inconsistant due to a lack of discipline but his resume is impressive. McCallum, Barkley, Nunn, Jirov, Holyfield etc.

Calzaghe - Has the weakest resume of the fighters here. Much like Hopkins was a champion during a weak era but unlike Hopkins didn't fight everybody he could have. Ottke fight never happened though no money in the world would have given Otkke the balls to face Calzaghe. But Otkke did face better opposition during their respective reigns. Reid rematch never happened despite being a close fight.

Wins against Lacey and Kessler were impressive but wins over a shot Jones and a faded Hopkins mean little. The fact he struggled with an old Hopkins suggests prime for prime Hopkins would be the likely victor.

Calzaghe may have beaten every opoonent Calzaghe faced but Hopkins would do so also.

 

I needed a good laugh!

God you are a moron.

 

And you are an infamous Roy Jones nuthugger. atsch:rofl

How does that Roy jones song go again? "Can't be touched, can't be stopped, can't be moved, can't be rocked." Unless it's from Antonio Tarver, feather-fisted journeyman plodder Glenn Johnson, or an Ozzie club fighter called Danny Green who previously lost to Glass Jawed joke Anthony Mundine :rofl:rofl

And you have the gall to say I'm the moron. atsch

 

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That's just speculation or guess work

Does Calzaghe get ahead based on the number of fights his fans think he would win?

Cause if so fair enough, that's a **** load of wins.