He didn't win a title from Bruno, he defended it against Bruno. That was Bruno's first shot at a heavyweight title. It wasn't until his fourth attempt (9 years later) that Bruno actual became a champion.
Pardon me sir, he won it against Tubbs who won it from Page. If I remembe correctly the fight with Tubbs was razor close?
Yeah, it was close and a bit tame. Tubbs was 244 pounds. At the time I thought it sucked, but it's better than a lot of the boring crap we've been treated to at heavyweight in recent years.
If you had any sense at all you'd have been dreaming about the women in my avatar. This will be an ongoing gag forever now, you realize this?
Your obsessiveness with Winona has got me thinking:think Does she have a restraining order on you yet:blood
Does this mean outside of the top 20???? If so I would love to see your list!!!...nah, nevermind, I probably wouldn't
Head To Head, Tyson is the 2nd greatest. You know whose the "Greatest" Prime for prime, him and ali would have had some classic fights between them. what lets him down is his resume, however during his prime and reign, he beat EVERYONE put in front of him, and thats all you can ask from a champ, that he beats everyone out in front of him. After prison he was garbage. His prison sentence is what ruined him, for those who say Lennox and Holyfield are better than Mike, put them for 3-4 years in prison and then let them fight a prime Iron Mike Tyson after their release, see how competitive they would be.
That's the difference between great and all-time great. Louis and Ali both couldn't fight for about three years. Ali in his prime, Louis at the end of his. Both did very good to great work afterwards. Tyson had also about three years where he couldn't fight in his prime. But his work afterwards was rather unimpressive to put it nice. Ali and Louis are true atgs while Tyson is a great.
I agree with what you said, however Mike was shot BEFORE prison, on top of that he always had mental problems. spending 3 years in jail didnt exactly enhance his brain cells. What i was trying to get at was certain Lewis And Holyfield Nuthuggers jump to the conclusion that because they beat Mike they would have done in his prime, im trying to remind them that despite going to prison he still stayed competitive. Post Prison he only lost to Holyfield And Lennox, the 2 other greatest fighters of his era (Williams and Mcbride was at the end of his career) So in my opinion he didnt do that bad. But he could have done BETTER, fights with Bowe, Moorer, Morrison, Foreman, Mercer, Briggs, Tua would have cemented his legacy and thats after being in prison. In his prime he would blown them all away.
"You have to understand, Frank Bruno would not have been champion if I had not been in prison. Oliver McCall would not have been champion if I had not been in prison. A lot of these guys would not have been champion. Michael Moorer would not have been champion. Those guys would not have been champion if I had been around. They would have had no legacy. None of those guys would have had a legacy." "I would have been in shape. I would have been active. Holyfield, those guys wouldn't have been champion when I was around, but I went away for four or five years inactive and that made them competitive for a time." "But you really have to look at the science of the situation. You guys come here to talk and report but you don't actually look at the facts of what this business is all about. The best thing that happened to those guys and they should stand on their mother's shoulders and kiss my ass because I went to prison or they would not be existing right now. They'd be a flash in the pan and would have made some money and opened up a restaurant or bar somewhere where they live at." Mike Tyson