Calzaghe & Mayeather's CV / Resume , is there much difference ???

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  1. Casamayor122

    Casamayor122 Boxing Addict Full Member

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    Corrales was a B level boxer with a huge size advantage at 130 and 135. His only big win against Castillo was tainted by the spitting of the mouthpiece. He was getting outboxed by Freitas before he stopped him. His SD win over Casamayor was a robbery. Totally outclassed and put on his ass. The most dominant performance by Casa in their trilogy.


    He definitely lost the 1st fight. How many times have we heard those injury excuses after a sub-par performance by a boxer?
    1. Castillo was beaten at every weight he fought at(FW stoppedX2, SFW stopped, LW knocked out, JWW knocked out, WW)
    2. LW was his best weight. Good if unspectacular MD win and a draw against the small but tough and gutsy Johnston. Decent wins over Lazcano & Diaz. Controversial SD win over Casamayor. All in all two runs as WBC LW champion with a combined total of 5 defenses. The only title he held in his career.
    3. Average JWW. A KO win against a LW Corrales. Gift win against Ngoudjo and he was brutalized by Hatton in 4 rounds.

    Not the legendary boxer Floyd fans claim him to be. He was just Mayweather's Junior Jones, Iran Barkley etc.

    A decent win a yes a completely dominant performance by Floyd.

    Judah won 4 rounds (1,2,3,12) with a KD in the 3rd round. Good win but Judah was coming off a loss.

    His best win without a doubt. Should have been a UD.

    One of his better wins.

    Stop looking at box rec and watch the fights. Judah put Corley on his ass and won a clear UD when the latter was a champion. Floyd was badly hurt by a Corley that had just lost to Judah.
     
  2. BadJuju83

    BadJuju83 Bolivian Full Member

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    Fair do's, I thought Hop took the first but the point was it was close, you marked the official fair enough.

    Lacy looked as good as Calzaghe let him. There was no physical problem whatsover. If he bottled it, tough. He was never as good as he was hyped to be but the version Calzaghe faced was as good as it got.
     
  3. icemax

    icemax Indian Red Full Member

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    4oz gloves means two things...Calzaghes hands would have crumbled ,in other words he would have had to amend his style, and his chin would have been tested like never before...durability is one area where fighters 60 or 70 years ago have a definite advantage, 4oz gloves and 15 or 20 round championship fights seperate the men from the boys.
     
  4. icemax

    icemax Indian Red Full Member

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    I don't think that people actually do say that. What people do know is that in years past if a fighter won a world title he had to beat the best in the world to do so as there was only one world title. If there had been only one world title at 168 when Calzaghe was campaigning he wouldn't have been world champ ever, never mind holding it for ten years
     
  5. Beeston Brawler

    Beeston Brawler Comical Ali-egedly Full Member

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    That's one concession I do make regarding the old timers.

    In order to win the world title you had to be ****ing good, to hold it for ten years you'd be an absolute superstar.

    These days, fighters and promoters (especially British ones) talk about waiting for a while for a beatable champion - FFS, you are either ready or you arent!

    But the one thing I reject more than any other is the utter nonsense when people suggest that today's elite couldn't cope back in the earlier days. Great sportsmen would adapt..... Billy Bremner wouldn't smoke 30 a day and belt people..... someone like Floyd Mayweather might have benefitted from judges that actually scored on boxing technique rather than charging forward and windmilling.

    The only insurmountable sporting record is that held by Don Bradman :deal
     
  6. icemax

    icemax Indian Red Full Member

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    I always think that he played a bit cross bat...but the old ****s tell me that that is as a consequence of playing on uncovered tracks :think
     
  7. BadJuju83

    BadJuju83 Bolivian Full Member

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    How?

    It would have forced an Ottke-Calzaghe fight in the late 90's thats all.

    Are you saying Ottke beats Calzaghe?. Or someone else who fought there between 97-07.

    If anything its the opposite, a one belt system in the SMW division between those years would have seen Calzaghe as an Undisputed champ, no 97-05 so called bore fest defenses, only mando's.
     
  8. Dan684

    Dan684 Dave's Stepdad Full Member

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    Calzaghe sucks

    That is all :deal
     
  9. icemax

    icemax Indian Red Full Member

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    Sorry, I didn't put across very well what I actually meant. The old fighters could only campaign across 8 weight division...only 8 world champions. Calzaghe would have had to have mixed with all the decent LHs of his era and we know who dominated that division at the time...or are you saying that Calzaghe beats Jones, over 15 - 20 rounds with 4-5oz gloves?
     
  10. TommyV

    TommyV Loyal Member banned

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    Badly hurt? :lol:

    And I have watched the fight, although admittedly not for a while. From what I remember, it was a relatively close but ultimately clear decision. One that was easy to score, but Corley wasn't exactly dominated. Regardless, Judah was beaten by Mayweather anyway, so spin it how you will, but Mayweather beat both those guys.
     
  11. BadJuju83

    BadJuju83 Bolivian Full Member

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    No worries bud.

    **** no. I think Calzaghe gives Jones his toughest night at 168 out of all who fought there under them regulations(modern) but still comes up short. At LH under those you stipulate, then no. As much as i think longer fights could suit Calzaghe in general, the gloves and the fact it's Roy is too much.

    TBH at LH Calzaghe didnt leave much of an impression full stop as it stands. Could be age, but I dont think he adapted too well to the difference.
     
  12. essexboy

    essexboy The Cat Full Member

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    Nope he just happens to know what hes talking about, whereas you appear to not have a clue.
     
  13. essexboy

    essexboy The Cat Full Member

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    You are the worst poster I've seen on here.
     
  14. essexboy

    essexboy The Cat Full Member

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    I spoke to soon.
     
  15. kosaros

    kosaros Obsessed with Boxing Full Member

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