The Frankenstein's Monster Of The Heavyweights

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  1. sugarsean

    sugarsean Boxing Addict Full Member

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    If you could create the perfect Heavyweight fighter with the choice to pick whatever quality's of all the past Heavyweights what would you choice.

    Heres my picks:

    Punching Power - George Foreman

    Hand Speed - Floyd Patterson

    Chin - Evander Holyfield

    Footwork - Jersey Joe Walcott

    Reflexe's - Muhammad Ali

    Recuperating Powers - Larry Holmes

    Timing - Muhammad Ali

    Heart - Joe Fraizier

    Stamina - Joe Frazier

    Workrate - Joe Frazier

    Jab - Sonny Liston

    Left Hook - Joe Louis

    Right Uppercut - Mike Tyson

    Right Cross - Muhammad Ali

    Right Hook - Rocky Marciano

    Combination Punching - Joe Louis

    Boxing Form - Sonny Liston

    remember you can only use Heavyweights,
     
  2. OBCboxer

    OBCboxer Boxing Junkie Full Member

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    Heres my picks:

    Punching Power - George Foreman

    Hand Speed - Floyd Patterson

    Chin - Rocky Marciano

    Footwork - Muhammad Ali

    Reflexe's - Muhammad Ali

    Recuperating Powers - Larry Holmes

    Timing - Muhammad Ali

    Heart - Joe Fraizier

    Stamina - Joe Frazier

    Workrate - Joe Frazier

    Jab - Larry Holmes

    Left Hook - Joe Frazier

    Right Uppercut - Mike Tyson

    Right Cross - Lennox Lewis

    Right Hook - Rocky Marciano

    Combination Punching - Joe Louis

    Boxing Form - Sonny Liston
     
  3. dbouziane

    dbouziane ............. Full Member

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    you could rotate a lot of the atg's in these categories and you wouldnt be wrong for doing it.

    but....

    there are some one trick ponies out there who's one trick is worthy of mention. mccall's chin, shavers' power, etc. (i use the term one trick pony loosely here. those two did have more than just that but are remembered primarily for that)
     
  4. junior-soprano

    junior-soprano Active Member Full Member

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    how can you guys pick the chin of marciano or holyfield over ali's chin ? i think ali has proven to have the best hw chin in history
     
  5. TommyV

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    Punching Power - Earnie Shavers
    Hand Speed - Floyd Patterson
    Chin - George Chuvalo
    *Honourable mentions Marion Wilson, McCall and Ali.
    Footwork - Jersey Joe Walcott
    Reflexes - Muhammad Ali
    Recuperating Powers - Larry Holmes
    Timing - Joe Louis
    Heart - Joe Frazier
    *Honourable mentions to both Marciano & Dempsey.
    Stamina - Rocky Marciano
    *Honourable mentions to both Frazier & Jeffries.
    Work-Rate - Joe Frazier
    Jab - Larry Holmes
    *Honourable mentions to Liston, Johnson & Wlad Klitschko.
    Left Hook - Joe Frazier
    *Honourable mentions to Dempsey, Morrison & Tyson.
    Right Uppercut - Mike Tyson
    Right Cross - Lennox Lewis
    *Honourable mention to Louis.
    Right Hook - Huh? Why?
    Combination Punching - Joe Louis
    Boxing Form - What does this mean?

    Physical Strength - George Foreman
    Resistance To Body Punching - Muhammad Ali
    Size & Build - Lennox Lewis
    *Honourable mention to Bowe & Liston.
    Inside Skills - Riddick Bowe

    Very quick mock up.
     
  6. Addie

    Addie Myung Woo Yuh! Full Member

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    Interesting. Someone care to produce some footage from youtube to suggest Patterson had faster hands than Ali?
     
  7. GPater11093

    GPater11093 Barry Full Member

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    Punching Power - Robert Fitzsimmons

    Hand Speed - Muhammed Ali

    Chin - Jim Jeffries

    Footwork - Ezzard Charles

    Reflex's - Muhammad Ali

    Recuperating Powers - Larry Holmes

    Timing - Muhammad Ali

    Heart - Rocky Marciano

    Stamina - Joe Frazier

    Workrate - Joe Frazier

    Jab - Larry Holmes

    Left Hook - Joe Frazier

    Right Uppercut - Joe Louis

    Right Cross - Muhammad Ali

    Right Hook - Rocky Marciano

    Combination Punching - Joe Louis

    Boxing Form - Wladmir Klitshcko

    Physical Strength - George Foreman

    Resistance To Body Punching - Muhammad Ali

    Size & Build - Vitali Klitschko

    Inside Skills - Jack Johnson
     
  8. TommyV

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    [ame]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=pazrZZbvi6w[/ame]

    Best I can find at short-notice. Skip to 3:15 for Patterson.

    I think it is well-known that Patterson had extremely quick hands.

    And looking at that video you can tell, especially with the force he's hitting with.
     
  9. TommyV

    TommyV Loyal Member banned

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    Good list. How did I forget these two? :patsch

    And Archie Moore, geez!
     
  10. GPater11093

    GPater11093 Barry Full Member

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    I think Fitz is a pretty controversial pick for the best Heavyweight puncher.

    What do you think Moore could be put under?
     
  11. TommyV

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    I think in a P4P circumstance, they are both great picks in the power department. Especially if you give them a 6'5-6'7½ 240lb frame. I would also considering putting Fitzsimmons in for timing. Laser-like precision in his punches.
     
  12. Boxed Ears

    Boxed Ears this my daddy's account (RIP daddy) Full Member

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    Looking at your avatar and your pick for speed makes me think about an argument I once had with a friend about who was the faster HW. I said it was Patterson, he said it was Tyson and acted like I was batcrap crazy for saying Patterson. Even told me it was "the film that made him look faster" :lol:

    I said "nah, his speed made him look faster."
     
  13. Addie

    Addie Myung Woo Yuh! Full Member

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    God damn...Floyd was great wasn't he. I must check him out more. Very impressed, and I think the video shows hes in the running. Great double left hook.
     
  14. Addie

    Addie Myung Woo Yuh! Full Member

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    Woah. Thanks for posting that video. Really opened my eyes to a few of them.
     
  15. red cobra

    red cobra Loyal Member Full Member

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    In the 1st bout with Jerry Quarry, Floyd decked Jerry in the 7th with what was described by a boxing writer as an almost "invisible" right hand hand..it was so fast. Just one example of many of Patterson's incredible hand speed..yes he was at least as fast handed as Ali.