Prime Duran vs Prime Ray Robinson.

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  1. john garfield

    john garfield Boxing Junkie Full Member

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    Maybe Ike Williams, d
     
  2. itrymariti

    itrymariti Cañas! Full Member

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    It's not something to laugh at. Leonard was simply not landing consistently from the outside. Most of his work came from the inside because that's where Duran had taken the fight. Ok, Robinson was probably a better fighter at 147, but it's not like there's an enormous gulf in class between the two; and it's reasonable to think that Duran would be able to do something similar to Robinson.
     
  3. Bokaj

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    :D:good My man.
     
  4. teeto

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    Massive Duran fan here. Imo Robinson wins, i always stick by it, i'm going for Robinson inside the distance late. I know there's no evidence to say such would occur, as that kind of stoppage never did get inflicted on Duran, but that's how i see it.

    Duran beats everyone else, haha.
     
  5. itrymariti

    itrymariti Cañas! Full Member

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    I'm going to put my balls on the table and go with Duran by close decision. Robinson's movement and tools from a distance would give Duran trouble, but prime Duran's head movement was, franky, ridiculous, and I think his uncanny sense of range and clever feinting would keep him afloat long enough for him to get inside and gradually mug Robinson over the distance. Certainly don't see a stoppage, as both guys have rocks for jaws; nor is either going to be there to be hit. Could easily go the other way for obvious reasons, but no-one's taking this without a fight.
     
  6. Boxed Ears

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    I don't see why it would be so outlandish to say Duran could take it. I mean, if Carmen can split decision Ray, albeit at middleweight, it's not like it's laughable.
     
  7. itrymariti

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    You'd have thought so, but there seems to be not insignificant consensus on the idea of Robinson blowing out Duran in 6! Admittedly, though, Ray was far past his prime when Carmen did him over and (from what I've seen) was something of a different animal at 147.

    I think that the Duran fans might feel deep down that their boy would take this one, but don't want to admit it for fear of getting the old "nuthugger" treatment...
     
  8. ripcity

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    Robinson is the better boxer he is bigger faster and stronger. Robinson clearly wins.
     
  9. Boxed Ears

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    Good points.
     
  10. teeto

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    Prime Ray Robinson, sorry not for me.
     
  11. Pachilles

    Pachilles Boxing Addict Full Member

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    I didn't post up reasons, i posted up facts. Something that Duran fans refuse to face.
     
  12. PowerPuncher

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    Robinson was 37-38 then, by that stage Duran was 5years removed from being Kirkland Laings lil ***** :yep
     
  13. PowerPuncher

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    LMAO at Duran fans worried about being considered nutthuggers :rofl:rofl:rofl Lets not forget all the excuses for his losses
     
  14. stevebhoy87

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    Duran is the fighter i give the best chance of beating Ray at 147, for me a highly technical inside fighter, espicially one with the skill and defence of roberto has the best chance of getting to SRR.

    While i wouldn't be at all suprised to see roberto to pull this one out i have to favour Robinson, for me he was more effective of the back foot than leonard, he could get more leverage from his punches and i think his footwork was slightly more impressive. I dont see Duran getting inside with Robinson as often as he did in montreal and when he does he will be taking more fire to get there. Robinson is a massive puncher, accurate and fast.

    I see Duran taking too much punishment whilst coming forward early (though certainly giving ray hell whilst doing so) but after a close 1st 10 robinson either having a late TKO or him beginning to slow down and robinson pulling away for a tight UD or SD
     
  15. Pachilles

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    I love how even though the title of the thread clearly says Prime Vs Prime Duran fans choose not to answer that question and instead change it to Prime Duran Vs Basilio version of Robinson. Unable to even acknowledge a question in which Duran is not favoured.

    And then even the not so delusional fans that can see sense feel obliged to add on the end, "love Duran though LOL"...."Beat everyone else though LOL"..."rather be penetrated by Duran though" in fear of losing the favour and classic credibility