The Fixed Fights Thread (not robberies)

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  1. PowerPuncher

    PowerPuncher Loyal Member Full Member

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    With the mafia involvement in the 30s-60s, we know about plenty of fixed fights, someone we probably have no idea about, it obviously could make us judge fighters incorrectly if we hold thrown fights against them and credit a throw fight to another man, so lets make a list (feel free to add)

    Robinson - carried opponents to decisions instead of going for KOs
    Cocoa Kid - notorious fight thrower
    Lamotta - blatant dive
    Liston-Ali -???? (we'll never know)

    Others??
     
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  2. Arriba

    Arriba Obsessed with Boxing Full Member

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    Wasn't there a lot of rumors about Paez throwing fights towards the end of his career?
     
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  3. PowerPuncher

    PowerPuncher Loyal Member Full Member

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    I wonder if allot of fighters do this, we know fighters just fight on to pick up pay towards the end but is there anything a bit more corrupt sometimes? Some fighters fall abnormally quickly from grace, but that can just be a fighter getting old overnight
     
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  4. Pachilles

    Pachilles Boxing Addict Full Member

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    Michael Gomez did it for 10k supposedly back in 06
     
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  5. TBooze

    TBooze Obsessed with Boxing Full Member

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    Everett/Escalera

    Anderson/Gastineau

    Probably Whitaker/RamirezI and Dukes/Gastineau as well.
     
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  6. Sweet Pea

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    Willie Pep/Lulu Perez
     
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    TBooze Obsessed with Boxing Full Member

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    Good call, Pep was never alllowed to fight in NYC again.
     
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  8. TBooze

    TBooze Obsessed with Boxing Full Member

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    On that criteria virtually every world class black fighter up to the 60s...

    Slapsie Maxie too!

    Honest Abe :hey Attell and 'The Real' McCoy deserve mentions as well, me thinks!
     
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  9. NoCoolFool?

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    Wasn't there some allegations against one of Joe Mesi's opponents?
     
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  10. mattdonnellon

    mattdonnellon Boxing Junkie Full Member

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    O'Brien...
     
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  11. GPater11093

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    Gans vs McGovern
     
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  12. Dempsey1238

    Dempsey1238 Boxing Junkie Full Member

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    Dont Forget Marciano Moore lol.
     
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  13. turpinr

    turpinr Boxing Junkie Full Member

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    ali-liston II
    robinson and louis both carried opponents
    i think walcott threw a few of his early fights to earn a crust
    kid mccoy threw a few too
     
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  14. Son of Gaul

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    You're right, it happened much more than people are willing to admit back in the day.
     
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  15. TBooze

    TBooze Obsessed with Boxing Full Member

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    You reckon? I would say that was more incompetence on Walcott's part. If Liston took a dive, why was he up fighting Ali when the fight was stopped?
     
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