Shane Mosley on Floyd Mayweather, Jr.: "I Don’t Know If He’s a Coward or Not"

lolol....wasnt arum talking about puttin pac in there with yuri? so he could make some history and get a 154 title? lolol

 

I agree, Pac will be too bloated if he comes at 154

Pac's walking weight is at 150

and that's in between fights where there's celebration and food and drinks everywhere.

if Pac comes at 154, he will be like Marquez trying to fight Floyd at 147.

 

whats good for the goose is good for the gander

 

that's why Pac rejected the fight with yuri.

 

sorry but it's pretty lame to do that "excuse" type of thing when you're in a debate

it kills the intellectual manner of the debate.

 

heres somebody trying to act like im a a biased floyd nuthugger.....heres some facts for you....ive been out to vegas for both of pacs last two fights.....hes a great fighter....very entertaining....both fights were awesome to attend....

i am more of a floyd fan.....but im certainly not over the top biased....and i do see things objectively....i only wish pac fans could see how his team butchered the floyd negotiations to avoid the fight....i wish theyd see that objectively

 

oh ...so pac rejected the fight?

i dunno about that....arum didnt end up making it....but i dunno that pac said "nah"

pac has people saying one day that hes a welter now and isnt going back to 140....then hes trying to keep his belts there and talking about fighting bradley...

 

deep down, you know shanes gettin his ass kicked may 1st

 

yes Pac rejected the fight and went for Clottey instead

 

kimchie...you seem like a somewhat intelligent female(rare)

you people are the ones who brought floyd making JMM come up in weight...i didnt...i simply said "if you wanna say floyd made JMM do something...i can say pac made oscar do something".....although i dont go that route....because nobody forced oscars hand....just like nobody put a gun to JMMs mouth to take the floyd fight.....

if anyone killed the intellectual side of this debate...its the guy who said "so because pacs a ***** its ok for floyd to be one too"....that pretty much ended any inetillgent convo on that subject.....is that the best the dude can come up with?

 

pac does what arum tells him

pac signed with clottey because arum made him....pac/clottey is perfect for dallas and that venue.....now arum gets to use foreman for cotto in nyc....where both cotto and foreman have followings.....you see how that makes sense and works?

 

The reason they pulled out of the 154 is that Roach though it would simply be too much for Pac. Foreman is a poor champion at that division so I think they had Pac's record of being champ in 9 divisions when considering the fight.

Here is how you are biased:
You equate Pac's struggle to beat JMM at lightweight than PBF's at welter.
That is completely unfair.

You expected Pac to fight De La Hoya at 154 like Floyd did, depite him being a much smaller size.
That is completely unfair.

You failed to recognise Pac's domination of Hatton. Hatton peaked when he fought PBF but he was far from shot when he fought Pac. Hatton was just off the back of a destruction of Malignaggi and fighting Pac at his more natural weight.
That is completely unfair.

I don't care how many times you have watched Pac fight. You are not being objective. Bringing up the negotiations for the Pac/Floyd fight bears no relevance to what we are talking about. You are squirming and trying to deflect the points which prove you wrong.

 

As you might know by know i'm a big Pacquiao fan, but if there's no good counter arguments to what the Floyd fans have been saying, i wouldn't be biased and still stick with Pacquiao. the thing is.. there's a lot of valid counter arguments to all those things being thrown at Pacquiao

like the Blood testing issue.. Floyd fans say that Pac is afraid of needles and doesn't want to take the blood test? that's not true.. Pac was game on blood testing just not too close to the fight, because it affects him psychologically, it started when he was drawn blood too close to the fight with Morales I. and he lost, so now he has a superstitious belief that blood test will weaken him at least for 1 or 2 days(we asians are kind of superstitious, hope you'll understand that. so 14 days before the fight blood test can affect his training

and Pac agreed to a blood test right after the fight, if what floyd really is after is the detection of PEDS on Pac, then Floyd should have agreed on a blood test after the fight, because obviously if Pac was on PEDS he will test positive after the fight.

one more thing.. Floyd didn't even have a scientific explanation(even the WADA president didn't) on the 14 day blood test thing. Floyd and the President of WADA were asked what will a 10 day difference make when it comes to PEDS? no answers from them.

it looks to me that Floyd was just trying to avoid the fight by demanding the 14 days thing.

there will be a counter argument no matter what anyone would say, be it Floyd side or Pac side.

the debate will never end, unless they fight.

why did Floyd didn't ask his 40 previous opponents to be blood tested? and then all of a sudden, when Pacquiao comes he demands it. for me it's ridiculous. it's not even in the rules of proffesional boxing anyway.

 

He was forced to fight Shane.

 

lolol...you arent really understanding what im saying....because im not saying i expected pac to fight oscar at 154...im saying....even though oscar had no business at 147....nobody forced him to fight there....he agreed to terms....just like nobody forced JMM to move up in weight to fight floyd...he agreed to the terms(although floyd did pull a bs move)...jmm could have walked away...nobody put a gun to his head....

and as far as pac/foreman....you can pretty much throw anything roach says about anything out the window....because hes been caught in lies....and he contradicts himself daily....hes said pac is a welter and not going back down....and now pac is talking about keeping his 140 and fighting bradley in the future...so take freddys words on pacs career path with a grain of salt....if you read freddy on a daily basis...he almost embarrasses pac.....hes the same guy who openly discredits pacs past oppenents...then complains pac doesnt get enough credit

the bottom line is...pac would definitley go to 154 and take a belt from foreman if thats what arum ultimately wanted to do.....but it doesnt make sense at the moment.....because arum can put him with cotto in nyc where the fight will do well...since both have followings there.......