Harry Greb, head to head vs. the great middleweights

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I was hasty. I can actually see where manbearpig is coming from.

I don't like to discuss Greb vs TBA and also used to steadfastly refuse to rank him. Common sense prevailed however and I now see Greb as the man P4P.

 

Have I not even wheted your apatite here?

I mean you could find footage of any fighter shadow boxing or sparring with a 60 year old man where he looked bad.

 

There's nothing to whet mate, I acknowledge how great the guy was. But he is wholly underwhelming in the footage available. There is no evidence to suggest he was any better technically usually either. A great fighter, but on the stuff I've seen, not so great a technician.

 

Dont you get it.

There is no footage.

You have to start looking at the information sources that do exist.

 

Keep missing my point, I'm done.

 

What a strange poster.

 

What exactly is your point?

It is not clear to me, and I doubt that it is clear to anybody else.

 

Its not about discrediting Greb, its about putting the wins/results in perspective. Example, Calzaghe on paper has beat Roy Jones, Hopkins, Eubank, but all of these men were past prime so we dont rate the wins that highly

Greb gets somewhat overrated on this forum, based on beating pre and past prime greats, thats a fact

 

Not a fact.

 

I see you dont directly address the points in my post because you have no answer for them. The Bottom line is Tunney and Loughran were both pre-prime when Greb intially faced them, both got better and beat him as they improved

Both Gibbons brothers were past prime when Greb beat them, both have wins over him in their prime

Yes Walker would beat bigger men, WHEN HE GREW BIGGER, not when he was 152lbs, he was just a welterweight Greb was beating up on then

Did Greb box the best as the best technical fighters we've seen on film? Well no one else in his era did and he looked to have skills seriously below those other greats from what we can see

 

Size didn't bother Walker. As evidenced in the Schmeling fight.

I tend to think Greb musta been some fighter to defeat the Welterweight champion handily, putting him on '***** street for half an hour after the fight' according to Mickey Walker.

Unless of course fighting bigger guys made his chin better and his skull was pre-prime when Greb beat him

 

Walker preparing for the Greb fight:

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I'd say he was in better condition here than he ever was as a light heavy/heavyweight. He looked overweight above 160.