That's not when they demanded the P4P best fighter in the world to leave the US and come fight on their own turf was it? Calzaghe was a double threat guy, mediocre boxing skills and a sense of humor :yep:good
This content is protected . Joe was a very good fighter but question he never really beat any greats at their respective peaks. He has a good win over Bernard but he never fought a peak Jones and believe me Jones gets crap for it too so calm down. People have a right to their opinions.
The terms offered were "hey Roy, why don't you stop fighting bums off the street because you're scared of getting hurt like McClellan and come fight a guy who at least has half a chance to fight back???" And "Hey Bernard, would you like to pick on someone your own size?"
No wrong, why are you being so biased? You know some fans can have a reasonable debate but when you post such biased **** then it just pisses european fans off Calzaghe was a fantastic boxer, if he was american he would have gotten the big fights and maybe he would have lost 1-2 times but he would have won a hell of a lot of more big fights than he would have lost. You really have no idea at all do you? Just me saying the name Frank ****ing Warren should be enough for you to understand everything that went on. He is the English version of don king, ****ing dirt bag and cost Calzaghe his prime career. The biggest mistake Calzaghe made was not trying to get an american based promoter to promote him. Calzaghe never ducked anyone, he fought the best he could get in the ring with. If anything its proven by fighting hopkins who was top 5 pound for pound so late in his career. Calzaghe's movement was in the shits vs hopkins and jones, his power was finished, his injuries were insane but yet he still put it all on the line.
Wow, Fraud? Thread saying show some respect for Calzaghe but ultimately shits on roy jones. Glass Jaw I'll give you but when you have reflexes and all around ability that he had it was hard to tell he had a glass jaw. Plus the shots that put him down were bombs. Some would have got up but they would have went on to be KOed. Still can't believe you called him a fraud when it was obvious he was far from that. His reflexes went away enough for him to get caught, and when he got caught, he never mentally recovered. I guess I can expect someone with the name Headbanger to say some stupid ass ****. On calzahe, I think he is very underated. He had all the tools a fighters needs. Throws all the angles with blazing handspeed and that includes the fast looping shots that set him apart and made his very hard to anticipate. I feel he was a master boxer and the complete opposite of master boxer bernard hopkins. Calzaghe used an offensive defense late in his career that baffled fighers who were not ready for it. When he got inside he throw tons of punches while waiting for his opponent to counter. As soon as his opponent went to counter, calzaghe would duck the shot and come up with a loaded/solid noneslapping shot: then go back to the rapid fire pummeling. On the outside his footspeed and movement were very underrated. He was very versitile and that offensive-defense, combined with the speed and every angle of punch made him very tough to deal with.
There was a moment when the fight was almost made in 2002. In fact it was agreed until hopkins wanted more money as i said before. It was reported everywhere here in the UK. Frank Warren confirmed it and he even set a date to announce the fight before it got cancelled In fact, there were many times the fight was almost made but not enough $$
That's kinda funny, being that I am not a Jones fan. It's funny and ironic you use the terms ballsuckers and brainwashed though. Must seem vaguely familiar.
Calzaghe was unable to get the fights. End of. Warren didn't want to go the extra mile to make them, and nobody wanted to fight Calzaghe anyway. poor guy chased Ottke and Beyer for damn ever and got no love until his hands were ****. now everyone thinks he's a slapper when in reality he's a guy who was a knockout puncher and adapted his style late in his career and kept winning.
calzaghe toyed with him, he knew it was his last fight, and he just had some fun in there. you know as well as i know that calzaghe never even went for the stoppage, he was more concerned with the boogie woogie and pokin his head through roys guard, shattering the HBO illusion for millions of brain-washed americans in roys own backyard.. it was like watching the lacy fight all over again
Calzaghe talks about it in his autobiography and Warren talks about it on the Calzaghe documentary called "Not your average Joe". He agreed to 3m then when the contracts were to be signed he demanded another 3m. This is the same Hopkins who was making 200k fighting his mandatories.
A lot of the hate stems from the ridiculous hype he had in the run up to the Hopkins fight. Many of his fans predicted that he would toy with Hopkins. I believe that generated a great deal of hate amongst the American fight fans. After the Hopkins fight there was a huge Calzaghe backlash. A number of fans felt as though Hopkins had been robbed (personally I had Calzaghe winning by a couple of points if I remember correctly). After initially being over rated by many here, he's now been ridiculously underrated. He doesn't have the best resume in the world but it's definately not as bad as some people make it out to be. He's a first ballot hall of famer and would most likely make the lower end of a top 100 ATG list. All in all he's had a great career, left the sport very wealthy and with his health in tact. He deserves more respect than he's given.
I personally liked the lacy fight way better because the only excuse anyone could make for lacy was that he sucked. That, my friends, is ownage.
i feel the hate for Calzaghe is unwarranted as well. If you feel Joe's a ducker thats cool but by that logic you must feel the same way about floyd, and i know the people that say it dont.