Prime julio cesar chavez vs manny pacquiao?

I saw an interview where Chavez was training for the Pernell fight and he said the gringos think they finally found someone that can beat him.
Ill look it up when I get a chance, it was a good interview

 

Great post. Chavez is so underrated by most new fans and the uneductaed fight fan.

 

Exactly!!!

 

Prime Chavez is hard to even cut. He had incredible slipping ability for a pressure fighter. I don't see him getting busted up by anyone

 

Thats because nobody ever busted up prime Chavez, he DID the busting up.

 

delete

 

finest fighter of the last 30 years easily ....

 

Funny thing is Pea and Duva avoided the JCC fight for about 3 years. Once they saw he was not the same fighter who nearly killed Taylor they took the fight. They wanted no part of JCC at 140. The Chavez that fought Taylor would have beat Pea.

 

No doubt. I was wondering why Sweet Pea fought Pineda instead of JCC at 140.

 

this!

 

It was well known that Pernell Wanted nothing to do with Chavez at lightweight and junior welter...that is why Don King was trying to set up a mega fight between Chavez and Terry Norris.

Camacho ducked him as well until he needed the money for his crack habit

 

Try selling the highlighed to the Pea nuthuggers.

I've had my run-in's with Peaster's over in the classic section.....and coming from them they's leave you to believe that it was Chavez who avoided Whitaker at lightweight.......

They criticize Chavez for fighting the winner of Whitaker-Ramirez as his last fight at 135 lbs before moving up to 140 lbs to challenge who at the time most people recognized as a larger and more difficult challenge for Chavez, and I'm talking about no other than Meldrick Taylor.
Its easy in hindsight for these Whitaker fans to spew the venom now, but at the time, Meldrick Taylor was touted higher than was Pernell Whitaker.

I've always said to the Whitaker fans, that the best thing that could have happened to him was losing that Ramirez fight.......had Whitaker gotten the decision that I myself thought he deserved, he may very well have been matched with JC Chavez, and there is zero doubt in my mind that that particular Whitaker who had yet to even hold a world title was to green for Chavez, and he would have gotten steamrolled.
A 135 lbs Chavez was an absolute prime, skilled fighting machine and he would have taken the much too green Whitaker to the cleaners.

 

I think thats all a bit of hot air really.

King specifically stated he had no interest in Chavez fighting Pea because "He didnt draw"

Whilst on the other hand Duva and Pea called for the fight on several occasions from at least 1990 onwards. The really ramped it up when Pea moved up to 140 but nothing come about because King just didnt want it.

The timing didnt help the situation either for a fight at lightweight because Chavez was off to 140 pretty much the same time Pea was establishing himself as a titlist after getting robbed against Ramirez.

And King was the one who blocked the Norris fight...Goosen and Norris were keen and so was Chavez in principal but it was King who eventually squashed it.

 

The evidence is not there boys...check out all the articles and interviews relating to this fight from about 1989 on.

You see King talking the fight down...Duva talking the fight up and Pea wondering why it cant happen.

I think its all a bit of hogwash from Chavez fans to say Pea didnt want this fight.

Id be happy to see all this evidence that points to Pea dodging this fight...I might be missing something, so If Im wrong please show me.

 

You're neither putting it appropriately or correctly.......

You're right that the timing was'nt quite there at lightweight.....and from there, Whitaker and Chavez never crossed paths until Pea went up to 140 lbs for the IBF trinket for Pineda.
Whitaker had just made his move from 135 to 140 lbs.
He beat Pineda for the 140 lbs IBF title......he was now in position to demand a fight against the consensus P4P best fighter in the world JC Chavez......but instead, Pea abandons the division and moves up to Welter.

Never in the history of the sport has an elite fighter ever stepped into a new division that contained the consensus P4P best fighter, and then abandoned that division not to seek and demand a fight against the P4P best.

If I'm a lightweight moving to 140 lbs at the time, you would think your main focus would have been to secure a fight with the best P4P in JC Chavez......

.....but thats not what happened. As a matter of fact, Duva before Whitaker even climbed to 140 lbs to fight Pineda, even admitted Whitaker was not ready to fight Chavez.

......and after they already had fought at Welter, Duva again admitted that they knew it was to their advantage to fight Chavez at 147 lbs.