Is the Super Six Going to Be Ruined by Home Cooking?

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  1. 310king

    310king New Member Full Member

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    Judging by the refs and what happened in Froch/Dirrell and Kessler/Ward, is it possible?
     
  2. WatchfortheHook

    WatchfortheHook Boxing Addict Full Member

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    Don't think so.

    I may be in the minority here but these are my thoughts on those two fights: Ward would have kicked Kessler's ass without headbutting. Yes, points should have been deducted and that would have changed the complexion a little but Ward just completely out-classed him on that specific night.

    Regarding the Froch/Dirrell fight, it would have been nice to somehow score that fight as both getting a loss. Not a draw, that would imply that they both didn't lose and both didn't win...which is too nice for that horrific performance.:dead
     
  3. bailey

    bailey Loyal Member Full Member

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    I dont think so either
    With Froch vs Dirrell both
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    , it was a close fight open to interpretation.
    With Kessler vs Ward, sure there were some dis heartening headbutts but I think the result would have gone Wards way all the same on this night
     
  4. £4£

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    I pretty much agree with you here. Ward's headbutting was ridiculous and he should have been penailised for it. Regardless I think Kessler had no answer for Ward on that night.

    I think Dirrell did just about enough for the nod, Froch did **** all! A pretty embarrasing performance from both of them with all Dirrell spoiling.

    All in all the super 6 is turning out to be pretty wank!
     
  5. David Fanning

    David Fanning Internet Tuff Guy Full Member

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    Las Vegas is the most neutral spot for almost any two fighters to fight in. They may have some of the later fights fought there. And it is much more to Dirrell's advantage moving the fight from California to Detroit.
     
  6. HolgerD

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    I don't think so because the organizers of the Super Six are well aware of the fact that there has already been enough of that. Froch-Dirrell was a draw by most unbiased viewers opinion. Ward changed Kessler´s face by way of headbutting without even getting a warning. Would the result have changed? Answer: Nobody knows.
     
  7. Ilesey

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  8. Marnoff

    Marnoff Obsessed with Boxing Full Member

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    It is obviously "possible", but I doubt it. I may not agree with all decisions as with Dirrell vs. Froch, but I'm not going to cry foul over them either within reason.
     
  9. fitzgeraldz

    fitzgeraldz And the new Full Member

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  10. booradley

    booradley Mean People Kick Ass! Full Member

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    The Sauerland six was "ruined" when Sauerland decided to exclude Bute and Pavlik in favor of including a damaged Jermain Taylor and a green prospect. The fact that Abraham's first two fights are Taylor's corpse and the green prospect should not be allowed to escape our notice.
     
  11. WatchfortheHook

    WatchfortheHook Boxing Addict Full Member

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    :roll:

    Though it doesn't particularly relate to the thread topic I'll veer off into this quote. First, yes, Bute should be in the tournament.

    Secondly, some of the favoritism in the polemics of ESB is humorous. For Pavlik fans Hopkins is "an all-time great" "a living legend" etc. To Pavlik detractors Hopkins is "old man River" "well past his prime" etc.

    The reason I'm saying this is there is always two-sides to every coin. "The green prospect" that is Andre Dirrell is also the fastest SMW on the planet and also seems to be an interesting clash of styles that should be problematic for Arthur Abraham...this should not go unnoticed. It should not go unnoticed that the majority of ESB as well as a lot of experts said that if Jermain Taylor survived the fight he should win by decision EVEN in Germany. Arthur just isn't active enough! Jermain has one of the best jabs in the business and has a reach advantage!

    Also, I noticed in another thread you also mentioned his fight with Froch as a pairing with the worst defensive fighter of the tournament...the other side of the coin is he's easily the most relentless fighter whose best performance was clearly not against Taylor but against LHW champion Jean Pascal. He's certainly one of the best conditioned fighters as well. Though I do agree with you that I see this as a nightmare matchup for Froch it's important that we don't solely focus on one side of the coin.
     
  12. DemolitionDan

    DemolitionDan ATG and HoF Full Member

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    Not at all. Froch-Dirrell was a close fight that could have gone either way. Dirrell turned it on in the Championship Rounds and finished strong, but Froch took a couple of clear rounds in rounds 6 and 7 I believe and the rest of the rounds were swing rounds. Personally, I scored it for Dirrell, but it was a razor thin fight and the only reason why people are crying is because the home fighter won. If Dirrell's people thinks they should have gotten the decision or if they knew that the judges would may'be favor Froch a bit then Dirrell has to do a lot more than fall and run away.

    Ward-Kessler wasn't ruined because Ward was kicking his ass anyway minus the headbutts. Speed kills and it really kills Kessler, he just can't handle speed, but Ward should have defo have gotten a couple of warnings may'be even a point taken away.
     
  13. Farmboxer

    Farmboxer VIP Member Full Member

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    Why did Dirrell fake an injury? To get the fight in his home town, which he almost did. Detroit is as good as his hometown and he knows it. Dirrell will run, hold, fall down on canvas, complain and depend on his judges to give him the decision, if he does not get knocked out, but he does not have to fight at all, all he has to do is run like Hell and his judges will give it to him. He knows that. He has to cheat.
     
  14. VanillaKilla

    VanillaKilla Boxing Addict Full Member

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    Honestly, I have to disagree.... Any fighter fighting in their HOME COUNTRY will always have an advantage over the outsider..... Unless ofcourse said outsider is some kind of superstar....

    Lets not kid ourselves, our country robs foreign fighters all the time as well :patsch
     
  15. Farmboxer

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