If Duran face McCallum instead of Hearns, who you got?

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  1. PowerPuncher

    PowerPuncher Loyal Member Full Member

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    McCallum has a better jab than Hagler if anything and is very hard to land a jab on, his defense is very good better than Haglers and hes a better counter puncher. Hagler is going to have to pressure McCallum because he sure as **** isnt outboxing him

    Hagler has never beat anyone that resembles McCallum
     
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  2. PowerPuncher

    PowerPuncher Loyal Member Full Member

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    Who that Hagler actually beat would McCallum not beat? The only 1 with a shot is Hearns and didnt McCallum get the better of sparring sessions at the kronk?
     
  3. laxpdx

    laxpdx Boxing Addict Full Member

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    I think Duran may last the distance, but not win, as the bigger, stronger McCallum's body attack is too much to overcome. Mike by comfortable UD at the very least. I wouldn't rule out a late stoppage either, as Duran tired easier at higher weights.
     
  4. Sweet Pea

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    God, you're an idiot.
     
  5. Unforgiven

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    I dont think McCallum is better than Hagler but I do think PowerPuncher is right to give McCallum his props.

    I dont think McCallum is being overrated.
     
  6. Minotauro

    Minotauro Boxing Addict Full Member

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    I'd take McCallum via decision especially at this weight a late stoppage is possible but I think it would go the distance.
     
  7. lora

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    I certainly think McCallum should be favourite and if he gives a good performance win clearly, but the animus some have for Duran is blinding them a bit here.

    Take a look at the relevant McCalum fights around this time and there isn't much to suggest a massacre.He looked good in overwhelming a severely weightdrained Kalule who had little offensive sharpness, but still landed a high pecentage of his shots and made McCallum miss time and time again.In fact most of the rounds up until the final one were swayed his way because Kalule was reeling all the ring whenever he got tagged flush...if MCCallum fights with this sort of aggressive impunity against Duran he'll eat at least as many counters, with more power on them and be made to look foolish at times, due to Duran's slick defensive skill...and Roberto aint going to get hurt all the time either.I'd think McCallum could tire Duran out fighting like that and come on late to take a decision, but it would be a tough fight.


    The turgid laboured tedium he gave us in shutting out the inept Mannion(a performance that actually hampered his career) vs the Duran of the Moore fight would be competitive certainly...perhaps even veyr hard fought.I'd be massively surprised if it wasn't.Hell the Moore of that period vs the relevant McCallum here is a competitive brutal fight as well.

    Of course if Duran turned up like he did gainst the likes of Laing and Minchillo he would be beaten widely and comfortably, but both at their respective best around this time and it would likely be a good fight, and a learning experience for McCallum.No doubt he would do better in any further fights.
     
  8. Pachilles

    Pachilles Boxing Addict Full Member

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    Theres only one single person with animus for Duran and that is me. The other guys are just being realists, and because of this, for the first time ever McCallum is being called overrated.
     
  9. lora

    lora Fighting Zapata Full Member

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    nah, i've been reading the forum long enough to know Power and Chrispontious just to name two, don't like Duran that much.Which is fine.

    And Mccallum has been called overrated before.In some respects i agree with John he has become overestimated.There was a while where you couldn't move for contrived garbage articles going around call him the Charley Burley of the eighties etc the kalambay fight was practically airbrushed out of existance for a long time.For a long time the guy was the white knight of eighties boxing for the contrarians wanting to rage against Duran, Leonard , Hearns and Hagler.
     
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  10. McGrain

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    Great post. McCallum fought more aggressively against Curry, also, and his connect % was in the doldrums whilst Curry's was up near 50%.
     
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  12. Meast

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    It's been mentioned a few times before this thread that McCallum is over rated on here.

    Whats your view on this fight anyway Pachilles?

    Do you agree with the majority that Duran would go the distance and lose a discussion or do you think he gets beaten earlier?
     
  13. PowerPuncher

    PowerPuncher Loyal Member Full Member

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    Im a Duran fan, I actually think hes probably the best LW ever, but at 154 and above hes not that good and him and his delusional fans always have some BS excuse. I do hate his nuthuggers and the fact they dont get laughed out of here with all the BS they spew
     
  14. Pachilles

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    I think at MW, Duran doesnt have the stamina to keep up with McCallum's pace, and doesnt have the speed or the reflexes to outbox McCallum, and that McCallum is too much bigger naturally and powerful for Duran to win in a fire fight. Basically i think McCallum is just too much physically at MW for Duran to handle. I think Duran would need to commit to an all out offensive as his best chance of winning, and would likely get KO'ed somewere along the way. But realistically i don't see him bull rushing and if Duran doesnt force, McCallum wouldnt force it, and he'd be happy to just outwork him at a calm but consistant pace, winning a UD with a gap similar to the Hagler fight.
     
  15. teeto

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    McCallum really does have a good style here i'd say. Together with a 154 Duran not ever being the truly best version i'd say McCallum in the heart of his prime has a fantastic chance. Just think McCallum has that classy boxer-combination hitting style, and is not a 'runner' (which i don't rate against Duran largely).

    All i can say is McCallum has a fantastic chance, let's leave it there:D

    I'm trying to think of Duran's positives here and would probably be best for him to go to work in the usual manner and try to outlast his man, being honest with himself and working hard for every point gained. Tall order. This would be a special fight in terms of watching the tricks born (born?) of ringcraft both in the pocket and standing off one another. Just imagine the shoulder rolls and the battle of wit to get off first:shock: