When was Holyfield in his prime?

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  1. techks

    techks ATG list Killah! Full Member

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    87 to early 90s. He definetly wasn't in his prime in the third Bowe fight & against Tyson.
     
  2. san rafael

    san rafael 0.00% lemming Full Member

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  3. KERRIGAN

    KERRIGAN Boxing Addict Full Member

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    Nonsense.

    Holyfield was 210 pounds in his two previous fights to the first Bowe fight, when he fought Bert Cooper and Larry Holmes.

    Lou Duva thought that Holyfield should try to rely on superior speed for the fight against Bowe, so Holyfield came in at 205 pounds(his lightest weight in over 4 years).

    Holyfield obviously thought this was a dumbarse strategy by Duva after the fight, no doubt because he would have felt weak and not strong enough to slug with Bowe, so for the 2nd Bowe fight, Holyfield came in at 217 pounds, 12 pounds heavier than he was for the first Bowe fight, and only 7 pounds heavier than the fight immediately prior to Bowe I, when he fought Holmes.

    Your 20 pounds in one year is just crap.
     
  4. KERRIGAN

    KERRIGAN Boxing Addict Full Member

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    I would have thought you were joking, but then I noticed your avatar. :patsch
     
  5. guncho

    guncho next champion! Full Member

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    hasn't hit his prime yet...
     
  6. Dorfmeister

    Dorfmeister Boxing Junkie Full Member

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    Before he won the title and coming up from Cruiserweight as a number one WBC and WBA contender. He beat Michael Dokes after stopping both Pinklon Thomas and James Tillis, and that win in 1989 was for the WBC Continental Americas Title... With just 206 pounds, you could sense nobody could have beaten Holyfield at that time, not James Buster Douglas when they met in Oct 1990, not George Foreman when he made his first undisputed title defense in April 1991, not Riddick Bowe if they had fought before November 1992 and not surely Mike Tyson or Lennox Lewis had they have one not been encarcerated or the other presented as an opponent as early as in 1993. See the Dokes fight - too much heart, too strong, too much of a complete athlete.
     
  7. Furey

    Furey EST & REG 2009 Full Member

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    No.

    No version of Holyfield beats a prime Lennox. Lennox was robbed in the first fight, that should never have been scored a draw and then beat him in the second fight.
     
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  8. Karl Jade

    Karl Jade Active Member Full Member

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    As a boxer, 88. As a HW, 96.
     
  9. Sweet Pea

    Sweet Pea Obsessed with Boxing banned

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    The second fight was a lot closer than the first fight incidentally, probably to make up for the terrible scoring in the first. Either way, if Evander is capable of boxing that well against him outside of his prime, I don't think it's absurd to suggest he could've fared even better and won in his prime. Then again I've always found Lennox to be quite a bit overrated.
     
  10. KOTF

    KOTF Bingooo Full Member

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    James "Buster" Douglas fight
     
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  11. ed7890

    ed7890 Col. Hunter Gathers Full Member

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    I'd say going into the Bowe trilogy
     
  12. When he KO'D dokes...

    Or the ko of Douglas..

    RIGHT AROUND 89-90...

    He was starting to slip when he almost was ko'd by Cooper of all people...
     
  13. J.R.

    J.R. No Mames Guey Full Member

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  14. prepasur

    prepasur Warrior Spirit Full Member

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    Seamus McDonagh
     
  15. KERRIGAN

    KERRIGAN Boxing Addict Full Member

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    Thanks for that highlight, an incredibly well edited package with great music to match.