Let' consider Vlad and Vitali agianst the all-time HW greats more fairly...

OK, so Wlad is three inches taller than Foreman, has a better jab, better range control, doesn't hit as hard as Foreman but still very hard...how is Frazier going to land anything on Wlad?

If people say Tyson with his great movement would get past Wlad's jab, alright, but Frazier wasn't hard to hit. Wlad is incredibly hard to hit for a sub 6'0 fighter.

 

Not a good point, as previously explained.

 

Frazier had awesome upper body movement and for his style was hard to hit.

 

I dont think Douglas or Tyson would touch Wlad.

WHat more can i say?

I think only a fast TALL guy beat today's Wlad.

You say Wlad i chinny but nobody touches that chin anymore.

SO what would be the point debating all day about that? You'll keep your position and i'll probably keep mine.

You know how's the **** here right?

 

Wlad is also super cautious and weak chinned. He would not walk through Frazier as Foreman did, or as he did against Ray Autsin.

People have a short memory. What about the Peter fight? That was post-Brewster.

 

STart a poll about Tokyo DOuglas vs WLad Klitschko.

See if i'm the only one who have no clue here...

 

Wheres the stylistic analysis though pal?

 

On the General yeah, because most people on here ain't got a clue.

ask it on the Classic and you might get a more analytical response:good

 

I think they would be competitive...

but its hard to say because they are the only in shape and healthy looking heavyweights with some sort of skill today...

I think thats why everyone wants to see david haye fight one of them

But heavyweights were way more skilled and a lot more in shape back in the day so it's hard to judge how the brothers would do cuz they fight overweight sloppy punchers

 

you don't need a fast tall guy to beat wlad, you just need to land, and you don't need to be very tall for a heavyweight to be able to do that, which has already been proven. actually, most of the fighters that have beaten wlad have been the smaller version of todays heavyweights fighters, around in the 220's mark. david haye will be the next one around that weight that could beat wladimir. just speed and power does the job.

 

Not think you're being a little too harsh here Flea?

 

Is there some truth to that kind of thing happening a time or two?

 

Nah, not really mate.

Louis was the better fighter no doubt, and matched up well with Vitali stylistically. Would be a Helluva fight though, and I previously said Vitali:good

I'm not hater, just objective mate.

 

Fair doos bud, going for Louis UD myself, and Wlad gets carried out before the 5th, maybe I'm being too harsh now

 

he obviously is not the puncher his record states otherwise he wouldn't need so many ****ing punches to knockout an opponent would he? ****inghell. people need to think instead of just looking at records.