Floyd Mayweather Jr. vs. J.C. Vasquez at 154

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  1. KOTF

    KOTF Bingooo Full Member

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    The Mayweather that fought DLH vs. the Vasquez that fought Sweet Pea. Who would win it?
     
  2. bodhi

    bodhi Obsessed with Boxing Full Member

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    Mayweather was so cautious against DLH and DLH was just not able to keep a high enough workrate. Vasquez would do so. I think he would outwork PBF and win a close UD or MD.
     
  3. lefthook31

    lefthook31 Obsessed with Boxing banned

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    DLH was a quick fighter. Floyd easy UD.
     
  4. Bill Butcher

    Bill Butcher Erik`El Terrible`Morales Full Member

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    Well, considering the Mayweather that fought DLH was better than the Whitaker that fought Vasquez, that leaves me with the easy decision of Mayweather by UD (8-4)

    A Vasquez victory is wishful thinking, nothing more, nothing less.
     
  5. My2Sense

    My2Sense Boxing Junkie Full Member

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    Why do you say that?
     
  6. lefthook31

    lefthook31 Obsessed with Boxing banned

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    Because Whitaker sucked at 54, he was slow and couldnt move. Floyd at 150 or whatever he weighed would box circles around Vasquez who was about as creative as Mickey Ward in the ring.
     
  7. Bill Butcher

    Bill Butcher Erik`El Terrible`Morales Full Member

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    Because Ive seen both fights & even tho Floyd wasnt at his very best, he looked decent at the weight, decent enough to perform almost to his normal standard.... Whitaker looked utter **** at 154, he`s actually lucky that he never lost vs Vasquez with the shift he put in that night... not his fault tho, his frame is all wrong for that weight.
     
  8. lora

    lora Fighting Zapata Full Member

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    Hoya was never more than a serviceable fighter himself at 154, even at his best there.
     
  9. lefthook31

    lefthook31 Obsessed with Boxing banned

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    Yeah but he always had decent hand and footspeed, even at 54. DLH could stay close to FLoyd but realistically he didnt do much.
     
  10. bodhi

    bodhi Obsessed with Boxing Full Member

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    Tha's the thing. DLH was **** in the fight and Floyd was still over-cautious. How would he look against a fighter who actually does something? I think Floyd's over-cautiosness costs him hte fight.
     
  11. lefthook31

    lefthook31 Obsessed with Boxing banned

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    That was the point is that Dlh wasn't that effective but because of his speed he was able to stay close to Floyd. Vasquez was not particularly quick or ring savvy so it would be easier for Floyd to keep the fight where he wanted it distance wise.
    Floyd will let opponents get close at times but he's very difficult to hit cleanly. Everyone makes a big deal about the first castillo fight but he was essentially a one armed fighter when he needed both his hands to keep a stronger guy at range.
     
  12. sweet_scientist

    sweet_scientist Boxing Junkie Full Member

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    Floyd couldn't keep a B grade version of Vasquez (Hatton) off him in a MORE ideal weight class, he will have massive trouble keeping Vasquez off him in a weight class he is even less mobile in.

    As for DLH having faster hands and feet - hands I agree, but as for feet, DLH was plodding in a frankensteinan manner against Floyd.
     
  13. lefthook31

    lefthook31 Obsessed with Boxing banned

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    Hatton is also pretty quick both of hand and feet. Floyd also let Baldomir get close at times. Its all about whats happening in that range. As I said Floyd is very hard to hit cleanly.
     
  14. horst

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    I thought Floyd was utter **** actually, nowhere near his usual standard. That's the worst he has ever fought that I've seen. Even though I think he lost the 1st Castillo fight, at least Castillo was prime and it was an excellent, competitive fight, and Floyd did some quality work (I liked it when he fought inside in the 11th). Against a clearly past-prime and toothless Oscar, Floyd was inhibited and thoroughly uninspiring throughout.

    Having said that, I'd still back Floyd to outpoint Vasquez. It'd be a torrid night for him against someone as robust as Vasquez, but I still think he'd eke out a narrow decision with some tricks and flicks down the stretch.
     
  15. PowerPuncher

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    Hatton is allot faster of both hand and foot and has his wrestling hit and hold tactic makes him a different proposition. Hattons wrestling aside couldnt land much leather on Mayweather, no real clean head blows from what I remember

    Vasquez is bigger and harder hitting, but he'd give Mayweather far more time to think with his plodding style. Hes almost a harder hitting version of Baldomir.

    It really depends if Vasquez can be effective if he cant its an easy UD, if he can Floyd will have a hard night but score the cleaner punches to win ou a UD. I dont think hes relentless enough or good enough a pressure fighter to make it a hard night though