Mundines next fight

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  1. COULDHAVEBEEN

    COULDHAVEBEEN Obsessed with Boxing Full Member

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  2. COULDHAVEBEEN

    COULDHAVEBEEN Obsessed with Boxing Full Member

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    Think you said it all in the last paragraph Ash:

    Mundine's risk vs reward 'threshold' is probably the lowest in Aussie boxing

    ...ie if there's risk involved it doesn't matter how high the reward is.

    But you are right on Meehan...though I think he has been 'genuinely' unlucky!
     
  3. ashley

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    CBH of course Todd is in the know.....all I'm saying is the timing of the Froch fight didnt work for Mundine...he was clearly chasing Pavlik at MW after his MW win over Geale.

    Easy for Todd to say Mundine didnt take the fight and doesnt want to fight better guys but a proposed fight at SMW after Mundine won the MW IBO was just bad timing....its a shame he didnt say it was just bad timing....he would have known Mundine was chasing PAV....also saying he had these fights available wont hurt his international reputation :hey

    Mundine clearly thought the IBO title win gave him the clout to get a shot at Pavlik


    If I was managing Mundine this is who I would target in this order....



    1. Interim WBA 160 ....Simon (US 10) Geale 14 or Glovkin if forced #2

    2. Interim WBA 154 ..Austin Trout (USA 1)

    3. Geale if he wins another title

    I would avoid...

    Sturm....can KO him..cant win on points in Germany, Green above 175.8 Geale unless its a title fight
     
  4. ashley

    ashley Obsessed with Boxing Full Member

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    Oops....just said it all again....not like me to rave on about Mundine :yep
     
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  6. Contendo

    Contendo Boxing Addict Full Member

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    I commend you on the committment and theories you show Ash - you've obviously listened to Khoder well and it's like watching a young Skywalker (you) looking up to Yoda (Khoder)! :lol:
     
  7. 20a87

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    Disagree here, he should be going for winky (old, inactive and top rank), Sturm (not in germany but beatable everywhere else), griffin or spinks.
     
  8. roscoe

    roscoe Boxing Addict Full Member

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    I'm with Ash here. Mandy should avoid fighters that can beat him.
     
  9. ashley

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    Cant get Sturm out here mate...Mundine has tried a few times....problem is Sturm gets 1 Million Euros to fight at home....Mundine cant offer more than $1,000,000 aussie to get him out here

    Griffen is an option at 160 interim however the guys on my list are ranked ahead of him.....a true fight for the regular belt if Sturm is made super champ is with #1 ranked Glovkin

    However deals being deals Mundine may get to fight another guy for the regular belt if the WBA agree Glovkin gets next shot at Sturm for the full strap
     
  10. COULDHAVEBEEN

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    Fair comments most of them Ash. But if Mundine thinks the big fight will land in his lap with the odds stacked in his favour he's in for a very, very, long wait!

    The timing will never be perfect, the venue probably won't suit and the money will never seem enough...

    ...but if you aspire to be a champion, let alone a legend (like Mundine claims to be) you have to take a chance and have a crack!


    Here's just a few examples of Aussies who were prepared to have a red-hot go in quest of world titles:


    * Lionel Rose was given no chance whatsoever and had to go to Tokyo to beat Harada.

    * Jimmy Currothers had to go to South Africa and fight Toweel on his home turf in winning his title.

    * Famechon had to go to London to win his title from Legra who had a 109-6-4 record.

    * Ferreri had to go to the USA to challenge Zarate who was 42-0, and nearly every one by KO. Ferreri didn't win but had a red-hot go.

    * Mattiolli had to go to Berlin and fight Dagge on his home soil in winning his title.

    * Lester Ellis was about 19 when Kil Yuh came here to defend against 'the schoolboy', thinking it'd be cake walk defence.

    * Harding had to go to the USA and was given no chance whatsoever to win his title from Aundries.

    * 'Bones' Kelly had to travel to the USA to challenge Reid. Reid got the nod but Kelly was unlucky not to.

    * Troy Waters had 4 goes at winning world titles, all overseas. Didn't win any, but had a gutsy bloody go at it.

    * Hec Thompson had to tackle two absolute legends Duran & Cervantes in search of a title, and both in Panama! Hec didn't win but had a red-hot go, twice.

    * Mundine's own father, Tony, tacked a legend in Monzon, in Argentina. Tony didn't win but had a red-hot go.

    Plus there's Vic & Kats and many, many more.


    (just a few examples off the top of my head of Aussies that didn't wait for it to fall in their lap - they got out and had a go!)
     
  11. LeonMcS

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    You're funny.
     
  12. ashley

    ashley Obsessed with Boxing Full Member

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    Yeah and you left out Mundine went to Germany to fight a guy with 10 title defences who was and still is unbeaten....Mundine was in his 11th fight.....is that any less that the list above?

    Ok Ottke was no Duran or Monzon but to go to Germany was pretty big in the scheme of things?

    He also took on Kessler after seeing Kess bash **** through Siaca.....6 months after Siace beat Mundine :hi:
     
  13. COULDHAVEBEEN

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    Cant think of anyone i can 100% say would beat the man at 160.

    Why cant he offer more?
     
  15. COULDHAVEBEEN

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    ...granted, but that was nearly 10 years ago, and he's stayed home getting old, bragging all the while, and acheiving nothing, ever since.