Hector Camacho vs Alexis Arguello at 130lbs?

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  1. Addie

    Addie Myung Woo Yuh! Full Member

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    I don't see this fantasy match-up being discussed too often. I feel that a speedy Hector Camacho, who moved well laterally and had some of the fastest combination's ever recorded on film would be very successful against Super Featherweight Alexis Arguello. It's common knowledge that The Explosive Thin Man, with all of his power, patience, and his longevity over a 15 round fight, has always found it difficult to dissect smart boxers. As a pure boxer, Camacho was exceptional.

    What does the classic think?
     
  2. Boxed Ears

    Boxed Ears this my daddy's account (RIP daddy) Full Member

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    I'd favor Camacho, although not too strongly. I rank Arguello much, much higher but h2h this fight I think favors the macho man with the speed and the legs and the underrated power. Guy's still never been stopped and I think he's in his late forties now. It's macho time, baby!

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  3. Addie

    Addie Myung Woo Yuh! Full Member

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    I agree. Camacho was more liable to exchange and go on the offensive before he was almost knocked senseless by Rosario, but I think he's disciplined and fast enough to stay away from Arguello long enough to pull out the decision. It's just a bad style match-up for Alexis in my judgment, who eats up stationary targets for breakfast. Camacho was anything but stationary.
     
  4. laxpdx

    laxpdx Boxing Addict Full Member

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    It basically comes down to Camacho's speed and Arguello's pinpoint punching. The whole fight is a tossup in the truest sense, but in the end...my gut instinct is to take El Flaco Explosivo by the thinnest of point margins. Even with someone as fast as Hector, I think the great AA finds a way to pull it out.
     
  5. anarci

    anarci Obsessed with Boxing Full Member

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    I remember when Computers first came out in the 80s, my dad had a boxing program that pitted fighters against eachother after you compiled there boxing info and skills. I put this one in and they Had Camacho winning a decision.

    HTH Arguello is the far greater fighter, but stylistically Camacho might be one of the only guys to beat a prime Arguello.
     
  6. Briscoe

    Briscoe Active Member Full Member

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    For all the talent Camacho had, he could never fully organize it against a fighter of Arguello's caliber. Granted, Ganigan did catch him early but Alexis closed the show. I pick El Flaco Explosivo. Too tall, too "chess-like", too controlling. Too much for Macho.
     
  7. Flea Man

    Flea Man มวยสากล Full Member

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    Arguello would get Camacho running and ineffective after chasing him for a few rounsd. Arguello UD
     
  8. sweet_scientist

    sweet_scientist Boxing Junkie Full Member

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    It depends at what point Arguello nails Camacho. After he does, it becomes a one-sided fight. However, he may find him too late with Camacho too far ahead.

    I think different outcomes would occur if they fought a series.
     
  9. PowerPuncher

    PowerPuncher Loyal Member Full Member

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    Macho Man UD - all the speed and movement would see him outbox Arguello for long periods. Arguello lands the occasional right hand down the pipe but a prime Camacho could come through and survive the rocky moments imo.

    How about Camacho-Chavez @ 130lbs
     
  10. sweet_scientist

    sweet_scientist Boxing Junkie Full Member

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    Regarding what most would be drawing upon here in analysing this fight (Arguello-Fernandez), does anyone else think that it could have gone either way? For what it' worth, I think Arguello would have ko'ed him with 5 more rounds to work with...
     
  11. GPater11093

    GPater11093 Barry Full Member

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    Camacho also struggled most against Pressure fighters/boxer-punchers. Julio Cesear Chavez, Edwin Rosario and even Oscar De La Hoya.

    I think Arguello is on a different level to Camacho. Camacho however does have the style, speed and movement to cause problems for Arguello. But Camacho as you say could be drawn into trading, also once tagged he dispensed with effective work.

    Also the Fernandez fight, Fernandez does punch and move but it's not how everyone makes out. Fernandez circled the ring then threw a flurry before circling again, it wasnt like a jab and move strategy. Also Arguello did cut the ring down pretty effectivly at times and IMO wasnt at his best in this fight and the ten rounds hampered him severly.

    I had it level.
     
  12. sweet_scientist

    sweet_scientist Boxing Junkie Full Member

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    Nice. Gonzalez-Oguma II and now Arguello-Fernandez - there's hope for us yet :good
     
  13. Addie

    Addie Myung Woo Yuh! Full Member

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    Edwin Rosario was at 135lbs, Chavez at 140lbs, and why even bring up the De La Hoya fight is completely beyond me. I think at 130lbs Camacho was a better fighter, certainly than the one who was beat down by Chavez. You make good points other than that, Rosario had his success, despite me thinking the decision went to the right man. Even still, it's a match-up worth discussing because Arguello did have problems with movers, and Camacho is certainly one of the better pure boxers of the last 25 years.
     
  14. Titan1

    Titan1 Boxing Junkie Full Member

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    I think Camacho has just enough, this being his best weight, to edge Arguello, though it could go the other way also.
     
  15. Duodenum

    Duodenum Boxing Junkie Full Member

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    After Irleis Perez buckled Camacho early with body shots, Hector was reduced to jabbing and grabbing Cubanito for the remainder of their bout. Arguello was taller and with a considerably longer reach than Perez, and Camacho's southpaw stance could actually prove a liability against Alexis, especially at 130, particularly over 15 rounds, the limit for all of Arguello's title fights.

    Hector would have to contend with laser guided lead rights and deadly hooks to the body. He'd be reduced to survival mode pretty quickly. Allowing for toughness, I could see Camacho lasting the distance, but wouldn't be surprised if the body attack of Alexis slows him down enough to generate a late round stoppage.