When was the last time floyd got credit for his win?

I think you are hitting the nail on the head here.

With boxing fans as the teachers, Mayweather seems like a genius just passing. Criticizing the quality of the assignments then cruising through them with a average grade. Every ounce of your body wants more, but you just can't convince the kid to buckle down.

In Mayweather's case he is winning on points when people feel he can dismantle opponents. He talks like he could dismantle them, his performance in the ring shows you he probably could, but... He chooses to win on points. His frank pre-contract analysis just adds insult to injury.

I guess the "credit" controversy is stirred up when you ask, "Are you satisfied with that?"

 

I disagree with you.

Floyd's talks like he could dismantle his opponents but his performances in the ring say otherwise. People hate him so they wanna believe that his next test is so ****ing hard even though it isn't. Then he passes the test with a decent but not spectacular grade and says he got an A+ (schooled) and people buy into it. Then he rubs it in their face and people hate him for it, and the cycle begins again.

If people put their emotions aside, they'd see he's just an above average fighter getting above average results, and that the rest is all hype. Above average compared to other top fighters, not compared to the real average of course.

 

I guess that is where we disagree. I think he could have stopped JMM. I think he could have stopped Baldomir. I think he could have stopped ODLH. Or he could have left it all in the ring.

I think he does school them. I think he doesn't make any attempt to BEAT men. He just wins making sure he does it in the safest way possible.

IMHO it is the difference between fight fans and boxing fans. I love a good fight. I like boxing better.

 

I just want this confirmed.

You're saying Floyd held back against those three fighters, and could have stopped them all. A one word answer is satisfactory.

 

I think you just demonstrate part of my point.

Could have should have would have... that's hype. Did or didn't. That's reality.

I love boxing better than a good fight too, but i just give more importance to what fighters can actually do in the ring than what they say they can when they are outside of it.

 

If you are 40-0 and you're only fans are haters, you would fight careful too. I am surprise he haven't broke down emotionally and cried... oh wait he did.

 

He doesn't have a great resume. His resume is solid to pretty good. And it depends on which weight class you look at. Most of his work was done at 130lb and 135lb

Take a look at the following partial resume of a fighter at WW:

Cintron
Clottey
Williams
Cotto
Shane

What do all the fighters above have in common? They were top 10 most top 5 WW's.

They are all natural WW for the most part. They may have started at a lower weight class but large portion of their career was spent at WW where they proved to be top contenders at the weight.

If PBF had the above resume of the unamed fighter, there would be no argument even if he had a loss or two. But PBF doesn't. PBF is just getting around to fighting an actual top WW now.

That fighter was of course Margarito. Cheater or no Cheater he damn sure wasn't ducking anybody!

 

his resume at 135 is good but nothing supernatural. A controversial win over Castillo, then a close decision over him, then a decision over Victoriano Sosa and a knockout over Ndou.

I mean Castillo was a very good fighter but we're not talking ATG type of **** here. Nothing to indicate that Floyd would hold his own with the best of all time. If anything it points to the opposite.

 

He could have made it uglier than he did.

He did enough to win.

 

it satisfied with who has fought and im glad hes fighting mosley as well.i was ready for this fight for a while now, i asked him what have you done for me lately and now mayweather vs mosley i cant complain.

 

I agree it isn't supernatural. But to be fair......I have eyes and have seen enough fighters to know that PBF was a great jr lightweight to lightweight and could compete with any of the best.

I don't think his resume makes him an ATG because that is something that isn't SPECULATED ABOUT you MUST EARN IT THROUGH ACCOMPLISHMENT!

So yes I realize I am speculating when it comes to how good I think PBF was at lighter weights but that is nothing past boxing fans, historians etc....have done.

 

I guess to you guys getting credit is being told you dodge the tough fight, he needs to fight a real welterweight. He only fights small welterweights, ODH was pass his prime and not a good fighter when he fought him. I Guess that is give Floyd credit yeah I see what you mean.

 

I think you highlight our difference in thinking.

Winning is "did". He has "did" 40 times. I don't know what more you are looking for. I appreciate his defense and elusiveness. Any guy can bang. Boxing defense is on a different level of skill. I wish sometimes he would put it on the line to finish guys, but I completely understand why he doesn't.

He does what he says. He wins. He makes guys look like they can't change the course of the inevitable points loss. You want to see a KO.

 

Exactly! Talk crap about him all day in the open.

Then bet on him and pick with him when the fights go down.