Question about Frazier and Joe Louis

Discussion in 'Classic Boxing Forum' started by Hydraulix, Mar 4, 2010.


  1. Son of Gaul

    Son of Gaul Obsessed with Boxing Full Member

    15,628
    30
    Feb 16, 2010
    Good matchup... They were both slow starters but I'v got to believe that Joe's ferocity and conditioning would pull him through.
     
  2. janitor

    janitor VIP Member Full Member

    71,606
    27,279
    Feb 15, 2006
    Its hard to say because not two Louis fights are quite the same.

    What we can say is that he somtimes took his time to soften his opponent up, but he also somtimes jumped an opponent early,particularly if he perceived them as a threat e.g. Schmeling.
     
  3. Flea Man

    Flea Man มวยสากล Full Member

    82,426
    1,468
    Sep 7, 2008
    I actually think its a very even matchup.

    They're about the same size weight wise; Louis has a small heigh advantage which is actually beneficial to both men. Frazier has a bigger target to attack/Frazier is in range for Louis' composite punches when he steps in.

    can I imagine Frazier dropping Louis early with the left hook? Most definitely. Will Louis recover and put some hurt on Frazier? Most definitely.

    IMO, even if we consider that Frazier wins the first fight, I'd have to go with history and say that in the 2nd fight Louis demolishes Frazier. That's what The Brown Bomber was like.
     
  4. teeto

    teeto Obsessed with Boxing banned

    28,075
    54
    Oct 15, 2007
    Frazier CAN ko him, but i don't think it would happen. More like Louis takes his man out with a blistering barrage of Joe Louis specials.
     
  5. djanders

    djanders Boxing Addict Full Member

    5,065
    6,932
    Feb 21, 2009
    Interesting matchup. Not an easy fight for either man. That's for sure. I could see both fighters on the deck early in this fight. However, my money would be riding on Joe Louis to finish the job and keep Joe Frazier down there.
     
  6. mr. magoo

    mr. magoo VIP Member Full Member

    51,209
    25,514
    Jan 3, 2007

    I don't see this as being a repeat of the Foreman affair, nor even close for that matter. George Foreman and Joe Louis were two completely different types of hitters with different preferences for certain kinds of punches, and I don't think Louis had the type of power to send Frazier every which way but lose the way that George did. In addition, I really don't think that smoke would have to rise off the canvas six times as he did against Foreman. Louis hated swarmers and he disliked the left hook even more.. Take a man like Frazier who had faster hands than most men Louis fought, the best left hook of anyone he met, along with a lot of power, resliliance and myriad of other things, and Louis might be in trouble early.. Joe ( Frazier ) also had upper body movement that was off the charts for a heavyweight, unlike many of the stationary targets Louis enjoyed fighting.....

    I would pick Frazier by a stoppage here, and not because he's the better fighter, but rather due to the fact that he is all wrong for the bomber in more ways than I even care to get into..
     
  7. PhillyPhan69

    PhillyPhan69 Obsessed with Boxing Full Member

    18,108
    15,593
    Dec 20, 2006
    Due to my PHILLY bias I was not going to post in this thread, but this mirrors my thought process. I am not sold on the stoppage, but could see it happening in rds 13+. I rank Louis as my #1 HW, but agree that to me it seems to be a bad match-up that favors the strengths of Joe F. rather than Joe L.
     
  8. janitor

    janitor VIP Member Full Member

    71,606
    27,279
    Feb 15, 2006
    Well Joe wins for sure.
     
  9. bodhi

    bodhi Obsessed with Boxing Full Member

    19,229
    257
    Oct 22, 2009
    The biggest winner would be the crowd.
     
  10. PhillyPhan69

    PhillyPhan69 Obsessed with Boxing Full Member

    18,108
    15,593
    Dec 20, 2006
    LOL! I am not a betting man, but if I was I would put a bunch on Joe to win this one!
     
  11. Hydraulix

    Hydraulix Left Hook From Hell.. Full Member

    1,767
    23
    Oct 4, 2008
    That's the way I see it. I'm glad I'm not the only person who sees it this way. This is a fight I'd love to see.