OK... Let's be honest here... There is no way in hell Clottey can...

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  1. kirk

    kirk l l l Staff Member

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    :lol: i didnt know pac had that technique man lol... ill keep an eye out for it should the need arrise for him to use it :good :lol:
     
  2. tays001

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    Got to say after looking over this fight. just really started caring about it last week. I see clottey winning . First he has a pretty solid jab. and a JAb is key to off setting Speed. his right hand is good. and athough he's not a power puncher he punches hard enough and fast enough to hurt or stun his opponet. i can see this being like the winkey vs tito fight or the 1st winkey vs Mosely fight with pac getting stiffed and hitting nothing but arms. he'll even get a cut in this fight by a counter right hand. Clottey knocks him down at the end of the 9th. then proceeds to batter him in the 10th and the ref waves the fight off with pac on one knee. i can see clottey style of defense(gaurd) and jab being the X factor in this fight.

    thing is i'll be rooting for PAc. as i really want him to face PBF.
    anothing is all of fans forget how easily they were righting Winkey off b4 the Mosley and Trinada fight. b4 the mosley fight alot of people though oh mosely is going to go in there and out hustle and bust through that gaurd. winkey just stands in fron of him . but we all know what happened then after the 2nd fight every body started to say of well Mosley never belonged in the division anyways.

    then b4 the the tito fiht alot were still righting him off saying well he just imposed his size on a smaller fighter in mosely and mosley did stun him in their 2nd fight so alot of people were pointing to that saying oh see, Mosley was able to hurt him . Tito will destroy him (forgetting that Winkey dropped his gaurd when he got hurt) and we all know what happened to tito who tried with all his might but couldn't break through.

    Just my oppinion
     
  3. tays001

    tays001 ESB ELITE SQUAD Full Member

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    you truly are a Noob.

    it doesn't work that way and that was a flash knock down. he was squared up also which means he didn't have the best Balance
     
  4. arsabs

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    i can see Pac losing, but never the one on red, wont surprise me. youre talking about Cotto againts Margarito. its been a long run, Pac has to loss somehow. i think Clottey's chin can frustrate Pac.
     
  5. kirk

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    Good points Tays about the Winky fights.... looking at the matchup you would think well mosley will be too fast and could outpoint him to a points victory, but when you got a big guy pumping a jab in front of you that you cant break through or hurt it changes the game a bit while that jab disrupts you. Good point.

    I know this might sound crazy to some though but i think Pac is a better and (ok i know this is going to **** some people off) but even smarter fighter then Shane. Pacs movement, defence and counterpunching has been at an all time high and to me he seems to have a bit more depth then Mosley a bit, Mosley to me gets so fustrated and allows himself to be taken out of his game and out of rythem by very simple things, and he also cant fight off the back foot very well. Hes very much a on his toes slugger with a lot of speed, and i simply dont think he had the smarts to deal with winky, the trainer to deal with winky, the gameplan to deal with winky, or the movement to deal with winky. Im not cutting down shane as a fighter as hes awsome, but Pacs counterpunching and smarts has impressed me as of late in a way that Mosleys countering and smarts never really have.

    i think pac has all those things to deal with Clottey that Mosley didnt have to deal with Winky, which is why i think he will win this fight.

    But hindsight is 20/20 and we may just be looking back on this and be saying how right you are :good. I def see your point and its a good one.
     
  6. tays001

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    I can undestand alot of people not seeing it playing out this way. but it will end like this. and know im not talking Cotto vs Margocheato. margo had no jab and rarely threw any that fight. the right hand will touch pac often and after 9 1/2 rounds of playing catcher and his eye being cut and the other being swollen by the jab he'll see it coming less and less often.
     
  7. tays001

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    you do have a point . but usally that style is effective against smaller speedier fighters. but i got to say i think pac is under estimating him and so is the public as you can tell by their intrigue. every body but a few think it's forgone. ithink that will also play to his down fall. and belive me Clottye is going to go str8 for Pbf . no rematch and Arum will try every thing to not make it happen
     
  8. kirk

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    I have to admit man i sure hope your wrong lol... i want pac to win this one so at least the chance of him vs the winner of mayweather/Mosley stays alive a bit.
     
  9. arsabs

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    i have seen Pac take a lot of clean punches and still manage to stand his ground, thats a tall order for Clottey. but who knows..
     
  10. tays001

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    yeah i wished to but after looking over every thing Clottey Xfactors will come into play. . but at least he'll fight Pbf after Pbf beats Mosely. and we'll get to see mosely vs Pac
     
  11. henrik

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    Pacquiao is WAY faster than Clottey... on feet and hands... Clottey will hang on for 7-10 rounds in a war.. then pac will eat him....
     
  12. tays001

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    oI see what your saying. but were not talking one punch pwer here. you keep tapping on a rock it'll break. and accumulation of punches can effect anyone. should be Clottey coming out party and i can garuntee you Arum will be talking how know other WW will fight Clottey Now . :yep

    i just see it as a style thing no knock on pac as a fighter.
     
  13. tays001

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    so how will pac break that gaurd?

    his angle's when he punches usally com when he's punching with his opponets. not whe they have their gaurd up. Dlh had his gaurd up but it was open and not as tight. and cotto tried the shoulder roll and dodging.

    what tactic will he employ to get around that jab?
     
  14. arsabs

    arsabs Boxing Addict Full Member

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    Pac is not Valero where punches come from just two sides. he punches from every angle posible. Clottey's ear would bleed if he keeps his guard to his face. but he can keep Pac at bay with his jab.
     
  15. BagsWithDust

    BagsWithDust Well-Known Member Full Member

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    LOL i agree with you, that punk arum will do anything to save his fighters so he gets more money. Hes a more dirtier version of don king. ANd when you combine that with Texas than oh man....