How was Trinidad able to ko Joppy with ease yet couldn't vs. a smaller man (Mayorga)?

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  1. Jacory Harris

    Jacory Harris I'm a gorilla I'm a dawg! Full Member

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    Mayorga went down due to sheer exhaustion and a couple of body shots, not head shots. Trinidud threw everything but the kitchen sink at Mayorga and he took his shots with ease. He even allowed Trinidud to tee off on him and nothing. Yet in the Joppy fight anytime Trinidud tapped Joppy, who was built like a tank and a natural MW, to the chin or head he was staggering around like he was a drunk. Anyone else find this suspect?:huh
     
  2. thewinfella

    thewinfella The Golden Boy Full Member

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    Not at all , Joppy just wasnt that good . Tito caught him flush at will , thats what troubled Joppy .
     
  3. Jacory Harris

    Jacory Harris I'm a gorilla I'm a dawg! Full Member

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    He did the same thing to Mayorga and he just laughed off Trinidud's shots. It was just odd how Vargas and Joppy (guys fighting at higher weights) went into stagger drunk mode whenever Trinidud would land a shot. Yet after the illegal handwraps incident he looked to have ordinary power (vs. Hopkins, Cherifi, Mayorga, Wright, Jones).
     
  4. thewinfella

    thewinfella The Golden Boy Full Member

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    I dont know man , i thought Vargas was all but done by the time Tito got him and Joppy a B level fighter to be honest .

    Maybe big man but im not convinced .
     
  5. USboxer1981

    USboxer1981 The Real Def. MVP Full Member

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    Yea, Trinidad is not Black.. so we know that in your mind he is a cheater and a bum... why even post here? You make a fool out of yourself constantly
     
  6. the_truth

    the_truth Boxing Addict Full Member

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    Wasn't Trinidad coming out of retirement after two years... Through the Joppy and guys like Vargas and Reid Trinidad was at his best. He's fight with Mayorga was after those performances and are we forgetting what Mayorga is known for? You need to do more research...
     
  7. Dynamite Kid

    Dynamite Kid "I Must Break You" Full Member

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    Mayorga may have laughed but he was wobbled moments after. Mayorga did a good job pretending early on but his face said a thousand words.

    When he fought Cherifi, he still had that loss to Hopkins in his mind, but still KO'd him. Mayorga's toughness lasted as long as it could but he eventually surrendered to Tito's power as well.

    Hopkins, Wright, and Jones were simply to smart and to good. I don't see your point.
     
  8. Bajingo

    Bajingo Boxing Junkie banned

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    Mayorga had a good chin: he took Mosley's best shots for 11 rounds.
     
  9. J.R.

    J.R. No Mames Guey Full Member

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    Because Mayorga had a better chin, plain and simple. A good chin can usually withstand punches through several weight divisions. Take James Toney as an example who has gone up from middleweight to heavy without a single KO loss on his record through 81 professional bouts.
     
  10. NESTORRDEA

    NESTORRDEA Active Member Full Member

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    You are a prime example of what stupidity, lack of attention and drug abuse can do when mixed together.
     
  11. Boom_Boom

    Boom_Boom R.I.P Boxing 6/9/12 Full Member

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    you should see his top 10 P4P list
     
  12. Henke67

    Henke67 One of the 45% Full Member

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    Vargas was all but done by the time Tito got him?!? What are you talking about?

    Do you know what age Vargas was when he fought Tito? Or that he was undefeated? Had beating Quartey and Winky somehow made him a shot fighter?

    Oh, and Mayorga had an iron chin. That's why he wasn't stopped as easily.
     
  13. kirk

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    That was a Mayorga whos chin had yet to be cracked..... i dont care how much bigger joppy was then mayorga, mayorga had a better chin and is just plain tougher.

    And not quite sure how Vargas was all but done pre tito (maybe pre mosley then ya) but he had never even been down before in his life before Trinidad.
     
  14. 4themind

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    Maybe because after this fight, trainers got more watchful about how tito's trainers wrapped his hands. Like Richardson did before the hopkins fight(and got them to change their wrapping sequence to comply with state rules)
     
  15. anarci

    anarci Obsessed with Boxing Full Member

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    Cause he had a tougher chin, weight is not every thing although it is an advantage it is not a given that a bigger guy will take a harder punch. For instance id bet that a welter like Margo takes a better shot than SM like Jermaine Taylor. Or Penalosa takes a better shot than Amir Kahn.