Calzaghe tried to fight Hopkins in the early 2000's

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- Jay Larkin, then Showtime TV Network's Senior Vice-President of Sports and Event Programming.

http://www.thesweetscience.com/boxing-article/5629/calzaghe-hopkins-flirted-years/

 

I imagine he made the same offer to Roy Jones too.

 

yeah yeah somehow all the other guys managed to fight each other while Joe hid out!!!

 

If he has no desire to fight Calzaghe then why did the fight finally happen?, it was Hopkins who officially called him out.

 

Even though the case might be on Joe's side in this story it's not on his side in many other similar stories involving other guys. Of course these people won't keep bringing that up like it's a monthly ritual.

 

I'm confused by your post.

Are you saying that it couldn't have been one way (Hopkins refusing to reasonably taking the fight) and then changed years later (Hopkins being willing to take the fight).
If you feel this way, please explain. I don't see whatever big contradiction that you must be seeing as to make it so implausible.

2nd, now I'm not denying that Hopkins sought out Cal. But could you provide some proof for your statement "it was Hopkins who 'officially' called him out".
But please understand, providing proof for this 2nd part is in no means proof that your initial contradiction exists. Because I think any reasonable person can at least conceive on how one's intentions (Hopkins) could indeed change over the years..... regardless of how much it seems to mess with your ability to conceive of it.

And also, what is 'officially' calling someone out?
Assuming the post that we're both responding to is true.... what makes Hopkins "call out" more official than the TPs transcript?

 

Simple enough, why does a guy from Showtime need to make Calzaghe look good? He dumped his affliation with ShoBox once people knew who he was with the Lacy win. Hopkins is just a greedy guy due to years of being a middleweight champ who had no name recognition until his beatdown of Trinidad. He thinks he's owed, leading to trying to keep most of the money for proposed fights with people like Adamek.

 

Hopkins was on a slave contract with Don King then, which meant whoever he fought he'd kiss the majority of the purse away, he saw out the contract, then signed to fight DLH for about 10million

ITS BUSINESS MOTHER****ERS

 

You mean how Hopkins was inactive, fought Hakkar, and Carl Daniels in the time when he was supposed to fight Calzaghe?

Truth is fighting Calzaghe didn't fight Hopkins' risk-reward profile at that time, and when he realized he wasn't dealing with a Euro-level bum, he doubled his demands to get out of the fight for easier pickings. He wasn't going to fight Calzaghe until the money was right and he got every advantage he could. The history of Hopkins' negotiating bears that out, the same way the history of Calzaghe's negotiations reflects his knack for wanting every advantage possible.

 

That's not explanation at all....
because why take ANY fight then?
So he'd **** away a fight where he'd be set to make more $$$ because he was on what you call a "slave contract"?
He would still be under the same type of contract around that time regardless of who he fought.
This is just some ad hoc explanation for why Hopkins didn't fight Calzaghe.... but it doesn't even make any sense because there's still the problem of him being under the exact same contract during that period in which he clearly fought some people. But no one named Joe Calzaghe.

 

this thread is going to be full of denial, i can tell:smoke

 

It is as official as the thread starter's post, that's how they call each other out "officially". They call each other officially by sending their people to contact the other side and reach out an agreement, it's not by yelling "I want this or that" behind a microphone after a fight or in a random interview, if that was the way to call people out James Toney would have fought all the guys he lied to the public about wanting to fight. When he was officially contacted he ran away with delusional demands pretty much the same way Hopkins ran off with his own delusional demands when things got hot in that discussion right here in this thread and that's only one example, I'm sure you get the idea.

About my first post which confused you, what I'm saying is clear and a response to the thread starter's copied transcript. The last line states that Hopkins never wanted to nor ever will fight Calzaghe and that was proven false in the long run.

 

No.
'Still' has relevance in the present, in which that comment would have been made.
Say fighter B didn't want to fight fighter A in 1996. Then in 2000 the situation was the same with B not wanting to fight A. You would be in your rights to say "he still won't fight him".

Say B gets the courage or whateverto fight A in 2006, that doesn't invalidate the comment of "still" in 2000. Who would even think that?

 

Dude read what you wrote, its very silly. Its plausible that one can have no desire to fight at one point in time and years later can have that desire.

He had nothing to lose fighting JC when he did IMO. Btw, i am someone who is very critical of JC.

 

i dont understand why hopkins, jones, mayweather etc. get criticized so much for having good business sense i do not believe any of these guys ever ducked anybody they earned their spot to call the shots it wasnt just given 2 them they kick some ass to get there. who did calzaghe beat to call shots against hopkins if he wanted the fight that bad take the **** deal beat him then your the man you make the calls to quote ric flair to be the man you got to beat the man at the time hopkins was the man