ESB Rankings - Feb FOTM & No.1 SMW Vote Results

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  1. robpalmer135

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    Fighter of the Month for February Result

    1st - Kaizer Mabuza
    2nd - Wilfredo Vasquez Jnr
    3rd - Daiki Kameda

    Question of the Week

    Who is number 2 at Light Welterweight

    After Devon Alexanders impressive victory this weekend against Urango, where do you rank the Light Welterweights. Tim Bradley is recognised by the majority as the number 1 Light Welterweight, but has yet to attain Champion Status. Who is his closest challenger to taking that crown.
    Please vote in the poll on this link.

    [url]http://www.eastsideboxing.com/forum/showthread.php?t=209745[/url]



    NUMBER 1 SUPER MIDDLEWEIGHT VOTE RESULTS

    [url]http://www.eastsideboxing.com/forum/showthread.php?t=208339[/url]

    We had 233 Votes in Total.

    1st - Lucian Bute 29.61%
    2nd - Andre Ward 25.32%
    3rd - Arthur Abraham 24.89%
    4th - Carl Froch 20.17%


    ***New Vote System Coming Soon***
    We are going to introduce a complete rankings re-hash and open the rankings up to a vote for each division and p4p. More info to follow in a couple of weeks.


    Rules
    1) These rankings our by the fans for the fans. They are formulated using polls, discussion and debate. All opinions will be considered.
    2) To be ranked fighters must have had a bout within the last 365 days.
    Guierelimo Jones, Sergiy Dzinziruk and Shane Mosley unranked due to inactivity.
    a) Fighter will be re-ranked once they have boxed again.
    3) Fighters can only be ranked at one weight. Fighters will always be ranked in the last division the boxed in unless they state it was a one off.
    4) There can only be one Champion per division. No interim Bull****.
    5) The ESB Title can be decided when the No.1 ranked fighter beats another eligible fighter. Fighters in
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    a) In some divisions the ESB Championship can be decided by any eligible fighter in a bout with another eligable fighter. This will be stated alongside the division rankings.
    b) Dzinziruk and Mosley still eligable for ESB Championships at there weight.
    c) ESB Champions must have defended there title over a 365 day period.
    d) If a Champion continually fights a poor level of opponent thats not been mandated by there Alphabet belt, they will be stripped.
    6) When a boxer announced there retirement they will be removed.
    7) The P4P rankings our done using a vote. Votes will take place every 3 months. The last was in early January, 135 ESB forum members voted.

    P4P Top 10

    1. Manny Pacquiao
    2. Floyd Mayweather
    3. Bernard Hopkins
    4. Juan Manuel Marquez
    5. Paul Williams
    6. Chad Dawson
    7. Wladimir Klitschko
    8. Miguel Cotto
    9. Hozumi Hasagewa
    10. Chris John

    Heavyweight
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    1. Vitali Klitschko
    2. Alexander Povetkin
    3. Eddie Chambers
    4. David Haye
    5. Ruslan Chagaev
    6. John Ruiz
    7. Nikolay Valuev
    8. Denis Boytsov
    9. Chris Arreola
    10. Tomasz Adameck

    Cruiserweight
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    4. Yoan Pablo Hernandez
    5. Grigory Drozd
    6. Giacobbe Fragomeni
    7. Ola Afolabi
    8. Victor Emilio Ramirez
    9. Denis Lebedev
    10. Troy Ross

    Light-Heavyweight
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    1. Bernard Hopkins
    2. Jean Pascal
    3. Glen Johnson
    4. Zsolt Eredi
    5. Tavoris Cloud
    6. Adrian Diaconu
    7. Behbut Shumenov
    8. Gabriel Campilo
    9. Jurgan Braehmer
    10. Karo Murat

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    5. Mikkel Kessler
    6. Andre Dirrell
    7. Sakio Bika
    8. Robert Stieglitz
    9. Librado Andrade
    10. Allan Green

    *The ESB Championship can be won in any fight involving two eligible fighters.

    Middleweight
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    1. Felix Sturm
    2. Khoren Gevor
    3. Paul Williams***
    4. Sergio Martinez***
    5. Sebastian Sylvester
    6. Anthony Mundine
    7. Matthew Macklin
    8. Ronald 'Winky' Wright
    9. Dmitry Pirog
    10. Gennady Golovkin

    Light-Middleweight*
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    4. Ryan Rhodes
    5. Alfredo Angulo
    6. Daniel Santos
    7. Vanes Martirsoyon
    8. Lukas Konecny
    9. Deandre Latimore
    10. Joachim Acline

    *The ESB Championship can be won in any fight involving two eligible fighters.
    **Sergiy Dzinziruk also eligable for the ESB Championship.
    *** Paul Williams and Sergio Martinez both eligible for the ESB Championship if they fight another eligible fighter at Light Middleweight.

    Welterweight**
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    3. Miguel Cotto
    4. Joshua Clottey
    5. Andre Berto
    6. Luis Collazo
    7. Jan Zaveck
    8. Vyacheslav Senchenko
    9. Selcuk Aydin
    10. Rafal Jackiewicz

    * Shane Mosley also eligible for the ESB Championship
    **The ESB Championship can be won in any fight involving two eligible fighters.

    Light-Welterweight
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    5. Marcos Maidana
    6. Paulie Malignaggi
    7. Andriy Kotelnik
    8. Kaizer Mabuza
    9. Lamont Peterson
    10. Juan Urango

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    3. Michael Katsidis
    4. Ali Funeka
    5. Joan Guzman
    6. Rolando Reyes
    7. Paulus Moses
    8. Miguel Acosta
    9. Humberto Soto
    10. Anthony Peterson

    Super-Featherweight
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    4. Roman Martinez
    5. Mzonke Fana
    6. Jorge Linares
    7. Sergey Gulyakevich
    8. Vitali Tajbert
    9. Juan Carlos Salgado
    10. Jorge Solis

    Featherweight
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    1. Juan Manuel Lopez
    2. Cristobal Cruz
    3. Yuriokis Gamboa
    4. Ello Rojas
    5. Rocky Juarez
    6. Steve Luevano
    7. Daniel Ponce De Leon
    8. Israel Vasquez
    9. Rafael Marquez
    10. Bernabe Concepcion

    Super-Bantamweight
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    4. Steve Moliter
    5. Jeffrey Mathebula
    6. Ricardo Cordoba
    7. Rendall Munroe
    8. Jhonny Gonzalez
    9. Wilfredo Vasquez Jnr
    10. Satioshi Kamura

    Bantamweight
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    4. Joseph Agbeko
    5. Fernando Montiel
    6. Wladimir Sidorenko
    7. Silence Mabuza
    8. Nehomar Cermeno
    9. Eric Morel
    10. Gerry Penalosa

    Super-Flyweight
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    1. Nonito Donaire
    2. Alexander Munoz
    3. Simphiwe Nongqayi
    4. Jorge Arce
    5. Hugo Cazares
    6. Nobou Nashiro
    7. Jose Lopez
    8. Duangpetch Saengmorakot
    9. Yota Sato
    10. Kohei Kono

    Flyweight*
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    4. Pongsaklek Wonjongkam
    5. Denkaosan Kaovichit
    6. Moruti Mthalane
    7. Luis Concepcion
    8. Takefumi Sakata
    9. Daisuke Naito
    10. Julio Cesar Miranda

    Light-Flyweight
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    1. Giovanni Segura
    2. Carlos Tamara
    3. Rodel Mayol
    4. Brian Viloria
    5. Edgar Sosa
    6. Ulises Solis
    7. Ryo Miyazaki
    8. Sonny Boy Jara
    9. Cesar Canchilla
    10. Yasutaka Kuroki

    Minimumweight*
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    5. Nkosinathi Joyi
    6. Juan Palacios
    7. Milan Milendo
    8. Florante Condes
    9. Ronald Barrera
    10. Manuel Vargas

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  2. DanielSt

    DanielSt 46-0-0 Full Member

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    good list I agree with 95%
     
  3. robpalmer135

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    let me know what you would change. input always welcome
     
  4. randeris

    randeris Boxing Addict Full Member

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    Do people put in their top 10 or do you make these rankings on your own?
     
  5. robpalmer135

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    it started a year ago with people making top 10s and over time I have been making the changes. if theres a fair amount off disagreement with anything then it will get changes. we do polls like the super middleweight one and the light welterweight one currently.

    major problem is not enough input from people at the moment. the thread has had over 100 views but only 3 comments, need more input
     
  6. PH|LLA

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  7. robpalmer135

    robpalmer135 Obsessed with Boxing banned

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    come on guys we need your input.
     
  8. Charlie

    Charlie Well-Known Member Full Member

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    Not sure if this is really a valid arguement but with Felix Sturms refusal to fight a mandatory contender for his WBA belt and even going on record to say that he would relinquish his hold over it, does he really still warrant the number one spot?
     
  9. robpalmer135

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    I dont think he is refusing out of ducking the opponent, its about legal
    issues right?

    If he doesnt fight for a year he will get taken out or if others put together god wins he will drop
     
  10. punch13

    punch13 Well-Known Member Full Member

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    I think Vic Darchinyan and Nonito Donaire should be co-champions at Super Flyweight. Donaire did bead Darchinyan after all. Donaire should get the benefit of the doubt.
     
  11. punch13

    punch13 Well-Known Member Full Member

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    I can't see Hozumi Hasagewa in the #9 spot in the pfp list. He just doesn't have the resume. I would easily pick Timothy Bradley, Andre Ward, Edwin Valero, Juan Manuel Lopez, Yuriorkis Gamboa, Nonito Donaire, Vic Darchinyan, Arthur Abraham, Joshua Clottey, Andre Berto, Luis Collazo, Joan Guzman, Amir Khan, Humberto Soto, Juan Diaz, Marcos Maidana, Steven Luevano, and etc. over him. He probably doesn't even belong in the top 50 much less the top 10. The guy has a 28-2 record over a bunch of unknowns, and all his fights are in his home country.
     
  12. robpalmer135

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    Just to point out the p4p vote was done in January, so since then there been a couple of good wins from guys. I am going to run the vote again after the Pacquiao fight.

    i tend to agree with you about HH not being top 10..............but not top 50 is just crazy. i would have him top 15-20 certainly, 10 world title defences deserves respect and the opposition is not that much worse than . one thing i would point out is the top bantamweights are not in a hurry to get on a flight to Japan and theres no reason for HH to leave considering he reguarly gets 50,000 in arenas and 25million viewers on TV in Japan (puts it into prospective when eveyrone going nuts about Pacquiao vs Clotty doing 40,000)

    I get the feeling next time we run the P4P vote (which will be after the Pacquiao vs Clottey fight) he will be out of the top 10, but that could change if he beats Montiel who is a very credible opponent. If he beats him his record would be as good as a Berto or Valero (in my opinion) but still lower than a Bradley, Ward or Abraham.

    With regards to Darchinyan and Donaire....hopefully they will fight this year so we will know for sure. Darchinyan deserves his championship status as he beat Mijares for the title.

    intrestingly enough when we did the p4p Darchinyan was ahead of Donaire in the votes by quite a long way which is strange.
     
  13. kosaros

    kosaros Obsessed with Boxing Full Member

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    :patsch

    Revise more about the division please.

    Luevano, Maidana, Clottey, Collazo, Diaz, Khan over him :rofl
     
  14. antcull

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    Pretty shocked that ESB voted AA above Froch......I have no idea how beating Taylor, and Miranda a few years ago gets a higher rating then beating Pascal, Taylor and Dirrell?
     
  15. kosaros

    kosaros Obsessed with Boxing Full Member

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    I said the same thing in the thread where you had to vote for them :verysad