Why don't journeymen boxers bet against themselves to get rich?

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  1. dangerousity

    dangerousity Obsessed with Boxing Full Member

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    There are many journeymen boxers who will never get rich because they will never reach that stage of a big payday. Just wondering, is there anything stopping a boxer from getting his friends to bet on him getting stopped 1st round, 2nd round, whatever round he plans to dive in? Odds for predicting a round is usually 20/1 or better, bet their mortgage on it!
     
  2. truushot

    truushot Well-Known Member Full Member

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    It probably happens. The one big issue is that the books will take notice. Most books restrict the amount wagered on those type of bets. It would be a once in a lifetime thing. Yes they probably get bets down against themselves but which round is doubtful. They may get on the over/under as well.

    Other then MAJOR fights, it is difficult to get action on most fights in Vegas. (IF you know of one let me know) Online carries a lot more fights. The over/under is usually has much closer wagering odds. So you might be a tomato can facing a stud. You might see -1000 against you winning but the over/under is set at 8.5 rounds. -130 under +110 over (made up numbers)

    If you are sure you can let him get you out of there before the middle of the ninth get some money on the under.

    Most online books have max bets. So you'd have to have money on a bunch of sites. It would be problematic getting your money. You need to have somewhat of a betting history online at a site to get easy withdraws. If you all of the sudden put 100k on a site, make a few small wagers, make a monster on one fight, and then want your money, a lot of sites will give you a hassle. Some may even cancel the wager. Online isn't regulated well and they can pretty much do what ever they want.
     
  3. dangerousity

    dangerousity Obsessed with Boxing Full Member

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    I think that answers my question. Thanks :good

    Some journeymen though will get a shot at an up and coming prospect, I know that Amir Khan for example when he was fighting guys with loosing records had round better on it. I suppose it will look suspicious though if you got 20 different BIG bets accross 20 different sites going into the same bank account, although having 20 friends who will get commision for doing it for you should fix that.
     
  4. gregor

    gregor Well-Known Member Full Member

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    Well, if someone does it, he is probably not going to talk about it on a forum. Another problem (apart from those already mentioned) is that we are not talking about big fights here, so betting serious amount of money on any outcome will change the odds against you.
     
  5. jjax

    jjax Active Member Full Member

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    He would have to use an alias, or better yet, launder the money through other people's account. It would seem mighty suspicious for Jim Thompson to set up an account using how own credit card, and bet on Jim Thompson losing in the first round.

    Online betting is reputed, provided you use the famous sites. You don't have to worry about getting screwed, unless you do something illegal yourself, like past posting, or fixing.

    And you can bet big money online. If you swing the odds, someone else will probably play the other side at good odds, setting you up for another bet at good odds.
     
  6. Boom_Boom

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  7. Boxed Ears

    Boxed Ears this my daddy's account (RIP daddy) Full Member

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    I'm pretty sure that's illegal.
     
  8. Watson2005

    Watson2005 Active Member Full Member

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    You can get odds on whoever you like if you email paddypower and ask for a price request:good
     
  9. Atlanta

    Atlanta Obsessed with Boxing Full Member

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    I'm pretty sure it is illegal to bet against yourself.
     
  10. kosaros

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    Well its match fixing then isn't it? Very illegal and if caught you would probably never fight again. A journeyman would probably get 1/25 odds on the other guy beating them on average, so it just would not be worth the risk at all, considering it could be their job at stake.
     
  11. IntentionalButt

    IntentionalButt FROM THE RIVER TO THE SEA Full Member

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    Unfortunately Floyd was a glass-jawed joke. :verysad
     
  12. freelaw

    freelaw Boxing Addict Full Member

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    You can ask a friend and share the purse. You can even spread this business all around the world if you have friends around the world - 11 winning about 7000$ each one is harder to notice that one winning 80K.
     
  13. MyStyle

    MyStyle Active Member Full Member

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    It's illegal but drugs,theft, etc are also forbidden......
     
  14. Little Pea

    Little Pea 'A' grade boxing fan Full Member

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    Why dont you always bet against bums to get rich?
     
  15. kosaros

    kosaros Obsessed with Boxing Full Member

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    :nono Journeyman are not 'bums' :twisted: