"Klitschko fights the same way every time. That robotic, Eastern European style"

Between Vitali and Wladimir they have:

* Boxed as pros for approx 27 years combined
* Compiled a record of 92 (84) - 5
* Owned a piece of the heavyweight title during 2000, 2001, 2002, 2003, 2004, 2005, 2006, 2007, 2008, 2009, 2010

 

How many guys has WALDO fought that had a decent jab?

Pretty much zero, as far as I can remember, which is why his jab looks great to the casual observer.

 

Now remove the WBO from that equation, which is a bull**** belt anyway. All of a sudden the first 4 years disappear don't they :yep They weren't real champions when Lewis was around, they were just swapping the paper belt between themselves.

 

Okay let's use your logic.
Dang, they've only been dominant for the last 7-years. That's horrible. :-(

 

Chambers will be unconscious at the end of the fight. a straight right and good night.

 

I have seen a lot of extreme hate towards the Klitschkos. Those who hate them claim they want an American heavyweight, but that is not true. The same bigots are Haye fans, were Peter fans, yet they are not American. Oleg Maskaev is an American Citizen, but when he fought Peter, they wanted Peter to win, but Peter is from Nigeria. By the way, look at all the money Klitschkos have given to children in Nigeria. I remember all the time and money the spent on poor children in Brazil. Notice that you don't see the bigots saying anything about that.

 

:yep
I think he really means..... "I hope Wlad loses for the good of David Haye":hey

 

I want to see a good fight too man. Don't get me wrong. But I don't see anything Eddie can do after he successfully slips a jab or two from Wlad. He'll just get tied up and turned. That's if he can slip those jabs though.

Wlad's jab is on another level and he stays behind it when fighting little guys. Jab, jab, jab, grab..rinse/repeat will work on him long enough for a corner stoppage if he doesn't have something real good up his sleeve.

 

RE; Chambers

I just don't think he can neutralize that jab. Lots of Wlad's opponents say they can do it. The fly in the ointment is they have poor footwork. And then they have a leaky defense and don't hold their hands up. Minimal upper body movement. don't bend at the knees to get low enough.

But they talk like they are magically going to have about a 300% cardio/conditioning improvement and have the constant movement of a Marciano or Frazier. They never ever do. They need to improve a ton on footwork and angles and bobbing and weaving and it takes a lot of conditioning to do it for 3 minutes a round.

What we end up with instead is about a 20% improvement and that's not even in the ballpark of where those skills need to be. And Wlad fires off a straight right and it doesn't have to land clean and they get intimidated. They do not want to get hit clean with it. So, they choose to rarely jab so they don't have to be concerned with a right hand coming in. And that intimidation factor makes them not looking to exchange under any scenario.

Chambers gets outworked by a guy like Povetkin. And now we are going to see him in fantastic condition and have the stamina and mindset to break down a larger opponent than Povetkin having superior offensive skills.

It's the same old sales attempt these opposing corners come up with and we hardly see the super intelligent risk taker and opportunist when the bell rings. They win the pre-fight talking side of things and it ends with them helping their guy back to the stool.

 

Great point. Nobody criticises a prime Ali for his very defense oriented fighting style. You could say prime Ali did the same thing every time, dance, dance, dance. Yet when a 6'6 fighter uses his best attributes every time and jab, jab, jab, it's somehow a bad thing and means the competition is terrible. Very few HW champions had versatile styles. Ali struggled with a few fighters that Wlad would just walk though, like Jones and Cooper. Tyson had problems when he couldn't tear through an opponent early. Holyfield lost to Moorer, who wouldn't win a round against a Klitschko. Wlad's losses are often held against him as if they mean more about him as a fighter than the losses/off - nights that virtually every great HW sometimes had.

 

Agreed -- Brock's attempt is likely to end up being better.

Brock fought hard, very hard, and he fought well. He really "brought it" to that fight, and has more power on his punches than does Chambers.

I like Chambers a lot. I used to live near Pittsburgh (Pennsylvania, for the non-Americans) and so I dig Pittsburgh guys.

However, he's too small and is likely to get caught at some point. This is a Byrd/Brock kind of situation, in my mind.

Good post, Scar! :good

 

You could say the same thing about Holmes. Mercer had the reputation of having a good jab, Wlad just completely negated it. If you use the word decent, not great, I would say that Tony Thompson has a decent jab.

 

Wlad fought Mercer in 02, which was Wlad's prime. Mercer was like 41 years old at that time, and was coming off a big win streak of beating bums. Now if he fought Mercer from 91-96, then it would of been a really good win for Wlad. The funny part is, even a well past his prime Mecer put one hell of a bruise on Wlad's eye from his jab alone.

 

Yes, great point. Louis had a good jab too and Marciano negated it....and what about Holmes, Ali didn't hit him with a jab all night atsch

 

Something tells me that you wouldn't say the same about a 160 Hopkins who never put away shitty opposition, i'm sure you praise him. Hmm

I suspect that they didn't realize that Sanders was a southpaw.

lol so his jab is nothing special, hilarious.


Speaking of stereotyping styles, it's a good thing that Klitschko is 6'6 since it means that he won't have to worry about the #1 weapon from Philly fighters, the headbutt.

Chambers has done the next best thing he could think of though and hired BALCO's Victor Conte, i suspect that's why he had no stamina problems and weighed 208 vs Dimitrenko. Hires Conte and goes from a fat piece of **** who can't throw 30 punches past 4 rounds to a 12 round fighter in tip top shape, hmmmmm