Josey anything to rumours of a Calzaghe comeback?

Glad we both agree on the bit Smutty actually wrote.

As stated above, not looking to get involved in another senseless argument, so I avoided the bit Smutty didn't write himself.

To be honest I didn't read through the entire thread so I'm not even sure of the specifics of the other part - ie the part Smutty says is incorrect in his last few lines.

(avoiding the sensless stuff - time is better spent on useful discussion)

 

Dont know what you mean hear mate?

I have no arguement here....just asking why you left out the bit at the bottom?

This is what Smutt wrote...including the GEM in green at the bottom...the part you left out

you are just plain ****ing ******ed! Saying, I'm not going to do it for you, is no rebuttal - it's just an admittance that your original point was wrong and you have nothing to back it up with. You didn't hit a "nerve", I wanted to highlight the fact that you had made a baseless statement: something you accuse others of in here enough.
At least you admit now that beating Geale didn't make him a pioneer, and one other statement you made should make things as plain as the nose on your face: The 154lb belt was not on the line, he can't make the weight that he said he could that would make him as such therefore he is NO pioneer. He is still the number one name in this sport in this country for as many wrong reasons as right. This is why fighters call him out; in this country he is still bringing in a good payday because the Majority of Australia want to see an Aussie knock him off, and that won't happen with the list of Argies he has trundled out here. Look at his PPV numbers; people are turning off in droves. Geale did big numbers because he was seen as finally as someone who could smack him around a little. The following card was abismal. The BS surrounding the IBO 154lb title was farcical and no-one with a reasonable grasp of common sense swallowed any of the lines that eminated from Choc over that one. He made (more) outlandish comments, that he was unable to back up and then pointed the finger elsewhere. The Medley fight which was more than highly competitive at 154 became another public sparring session at 160 because the weight factor drew Mundine back to Rob and gave him more than a good chance at winning. For the Australian public it was "ho hum" nothing less.

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As stated above I haven't read all of the thread because it's full of snide remarks and rubbish, and frankly isn't worth the waste of time to read.

But just looking at the GREEN bit you've highlighted above, my opinion is that I side with Smut's view.

As much as team Mundine seem very pre-occupied with officials, I doubt if they were able to hand choose the judges for the Geale bout (in particular), or inflence them.

Did they try to intimidate the officials on the night? Don't know - wasn't there.

There was certainly some media specuation that someone with a keen interest in Mundine was taking a very keen interest in the scoring. Who that was, and what they were up to I don't know, I only read about it.

The last part, is another good example of where people have to learn to accept facts. Mundine got the nod and probably deserved to. But the indesputable fact is that the Geale vs Mundine fight was very close - FACT! Anyone who thinks differently just doesn't know how to score a fight!

 

Ok cool.....yes the fight was very close and was one of the best if not the best aussie fight that year

 

Assume it's a different serial pest to the dill that bought the Aussie soccer qualifier to a halt some years ago - Peter Hoare.

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This guy has a wrap sheet as long as your arm for sheer stupidity that usually resulted in some kind of disruption or other.

 

Just the set the record straight, much of what I say regarding Mandy is a gee up, as I would think is what's behind a lot of non-huggers here.
I also tend to agree with Smuttys view on it (even though the rest of what he says is crap). :deal :hi:

With respect to the points made -

From what I understand there was definitely some attempt at intimidation directed at one of the judges, however we were told by PA (RIP) it had no effect on the judge. Make of that what you will.

As for hand picked officials. Isn't that in part of the very reason why the Medley match wasn't for the IBO JMW strap?
It stands to reason that it gives people ideas.

Thirdly, the knockdown is just my own opinion as I saw it.
I reviewed the tape lots, and I am of the opinion that it should have been ruled a knockdown. The ref and most others disagree, so be it. I stand by

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opinion.

And lastly, my opinion is that there should also have been some kind of penalty for the tape coming lose 5 times. No excuse for it, it's never happened to him before, and people with high profiles have admitted that it's an old stalling tactic. :verysad

Anyway, I believe the above, like it or lump it, and depending on who it's directed towards it's embellished a little. :yep

Oh and I, as with plenty others, did feel that Geale won the fight.
I believe 3 out of the 6 judges did too.
I also recognise that it was a very close fight and can understand it going either way.

 

Sox,

I don't know enough real facts to argue either way on most of the other points raised.

The tape issue was certainly a debacle - no question. IMO referees should carry their own tape, decent tape, and just completely overwrap the wrist if necessary.

Based on the media reports there was certainly someone Mundine-friendly making an arse of themselves with the judges. Whether he was 'official team Mundine' or not -I don't know. Did he manage to upset, or more importantly influence the judges - I don't know.

The knockdown could have gone either way IMO - it looked like one of those hard to call decisions where whatever the call, 50% will disagree. I wouldn't question people holding either view on the KD. It's probably just a pity that it played such a big part in deciding the ultimate winner.

IMO, again based mainly on media reports, team Mundine seem to be more pre-occupied with judges than other camps.

 

Make of what what you will? Look at the simple fact. It was stated that the judge was abused after the 10th round. He scored round 11 for Geale. You would be off your rocker to think that intimidation worked here.

There is no reason in coming to the assumption that officials were hand-picked: if it was, it would have been business as usual for the Medley fight... "Oh yes, we'll take that Englishman and Yank we hve never heard of - they will be perfect" wink wink!

atsch

 

I didn't say it worked.
Do you know how that judge scored the 12th round?

Again, I didn't say it was like that, but you couldn't blame people for thinking that it's a possibility.

 

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Your biggest issue is that you state your opinion as if it is cast iron fact which is why people can pick holes in your posts all day long.

There are only 3 judges for a boxing match.

Whoever was in charge of the tape should not be in charge of any tape again.

IBO baby

 

Stand well back everyone, hes attempting to break the record for the most number of balls in a single mouth.