What are Floyd Mayweather Jr. weekness? or Why I think he dose very well H2H.

Na dont see it myself floyd at 130 is better than benetiz imo

 

Benitez really was amazing.

Floyd at 130lbs was brilliant but wasnt as rounded as he later became (but he had a better offence and I still think the 130lb Floyd was his prime). I just think Benitez was much more varied, better defensivly and when he did get going better offensivly.

This article was written for this thread wasnt it SH?

http://www.thesweetscience.com/boxing-article/6681/blueprint-how-beat-floyd-mayweather/

http://www.thesweetscience.com/boxing-article/6682/blueprint-how-beat-floyd-mayweather/

 

Benitez was clearly better than floyd IMO in resume as well as ability.

Floyd was awesome at 140, but his oponents there were hardly mind blowing. There is a lot of glitter surroudinf Corrales but for me he is one of the most overrated fighters of the past ten or so years.

 

Thats the difference you say he hes better offensively when he gets going but he often didnt get going that should be held against him imo

 

Definitly, even so I still think he is better. He IMO has the better defence, so even when he refuses to lead he still can counter superbly.

Were talking about a guy for part of a fight was making Ray Leonard look stupid, albeit he lost the fight he still looked very good doing so. And schooling Duran and Cervantez really was magical.

For Mayweather he definitly had some brilliant skills but he has never showcased them at the top level say at 130lbs although he was winning the fight hands down, he was struggling with Gennaro Hernandez, at Lightweight he struggled with Castillo etc...

Also Floyd is class, I dont deny that.

 

I agree he strugled with Castillo but he pretty much dominated Genaro Hernandez all the way if my memory serves me correct. I maybe need to watch more Benitez the fight where he really impressed me were the weston and hope fights combined defense and offense brilliantly in those. Still dont think hes better than Floyd like each to their own I suppose.

 

For me Mayweather proved he was a great fighter at 130. That's not to blow his greatness out of proportion, not at all. I still think his best win is Castillo at 135, but his best body of work is clearly at 130. On Benitez, he is the one with the more mindblowing performances, and i'm not talking about the Duran fight, i'm talking about how he clicked into gear so early in the Cervantes fight, it's tremendous. He's the better counterpuncher, but i don't want to underrate Mayweather's versatility, i really rate the ability to switch up a gameplan whilst on the job. But i understand that people aren't convinced with his post 135 career.

 

The Hernandez fight was one-sided scoring but quite scrappy if i remember right.

Benitez was amazing, I cant say how much he impresses me. Sure I know he aint the best fighter ever but he is impressive.

Also I would rate him as a slightly better ring general than Floyd, look at the way he out jabs Benitez then counters what is coming back at him.

good post. He was very adaptable, would you say Benitez wasnt adapatble?

 

So whos better in your opinion May or Benitez? Stop sitting on the fence:yep

 

No Benitez could adapt, but i'd say it's less consistent. But he never had to be consistent with it most of the time so it's a non factor really, he was winning fights how he wanted to win them. People associate him with constantly going to the ropes but he was schooling the outboxer in Cervantes at his own game. I know it's not the greatest version of Kid Pambele, but i'm talking strictly on the performance. He's gliding around circular pumping the jab and slipping (Archie Moore's apparent 'serpentine motion'), and it's class. He was technically sound, could dig shots in etc, so you can never label a fighter like that as not adaptable.

 

It's difficult. I've seen a bit more of Mayweather because i'm in touch with boxing and he's current. Like i said, Benitez has them mind blowing performances and that might edge it for me. Mayweather is consistent but it must be said although he was the best of a good 130 era (imo), he needs something else competition wise for us to rank him there.

It's not simple for me sorry, i rate both men. Wilfred Benitez is a bona fide legendary wizard though. Imagine Pacquiao goes and bangs him fight after next though, we have to wait to rank current vs past.

 

Fair enough, why dont you think it was the best Cervantez?

 

Just that it's towards the end for him if i remember right. I might be wrong there? If it's the same Cervantes that come on late against the cut eye Locche then it's one of the best performances ever.

 

It was three years after the Locche fight, and two fights earlier he had looked good against DeJesus

 

Oh all the better then, that performance stands the test of time. If Bing's going for Mayweather on consistency whilst admitting he needs to see more Benitez then i'm saying it's perfectly viable to go for Benitez as the better boxer on his day technically. I'll go for that.

I'm going out now anyway, later Greg