What are Floyd Mayweather Jr. weekness? or Why I think he dose very well H2H.

if Floyd had met the likes of Sugar Ray Leonard and Tommy Hearns, I'd bet my house that he wouldn't look as good/do the rounds as Benitez did.

 

Potentially open to a great jab, fast combinations plus he has weak hands and hasn't gotbig 1 punch power.

Some will suggest a low workrate, which also has the advantage of presenting less countering opportunities. He has raised his workrate when need be against Hatton/Chavez/Castillo. Its not a disadvantage if your fairly easily outlanding your opponent either.

Against a speedy Ray Leonard/Hearns he'd pay for playing the counter punching potshotting role, against a slower smaller Henry Armstrong/Arguello he wouldnt. Based on that a fast combination thrower like Mosley should cause him problems, but in turn Mosley has problems with boxers

As for standard of opposition, no its not FAB5 stuff but why not look at contempary opinions. No one thought there were better 130lb/135lbers than Hernandez/Corrales/Castillo at the time. No one thought Gatti was worse than Cotto/Hatton prior to Mayweather fighting him, no one rated Margarito over Judah prior to Mayweather making that fight (pretty much made before Judah lost), no one thought Cotto was better than Hatton prior to FMJ fighting Hatton. No one thought Delahoya was past it prior to FMJ fighting him.

 

I think they'd look remarkably similar, Bentez and Mayweather are very similar, Benitez is taller/rangier, Mayweather is faster of hand and foot, Benitez possibly has a better radar, Mayweather has a more complete defense

 

I agree with what you're saying about people changing their opinions on the fighters he beat in hindsight, Chavez, Hernandez (both of them) Corrales etc were the men to be beaten at the time, good contenders. But on Gatti i couldn't understand why people thought he had a chance in a million years against Mayweather, even to the extent of the mismatch it turned out to be, i was not surprised at all.

 

There is some truth and much untruth in this. Yeah, Chavez, Hernandez, Coralles and Castillo were the men at the time but they are still his best wins. I agree that Judah was seen as beeing better as Margarito then but then he lost to Baldomir and everybody knew he wasn't. Gatti was thought of as good as Cotto or Hatton? No, just no. At the time quite a few people thought Cotto was as good or better as Hatton. And quite a few people called DLH a part-time fighter and past it before he faced Mayweather. Twisting facts again. :-(

 

At the time Gatti was coming off stopping the undefeated LW champ Dorin and was considered a banger at 140lbs, and beat Leija better than Tyszu managed from recollection. Mayweather was considered undersized at 140 at the time and it was questioned how he'd stand up to a big 140lbers (Gatti weighed 155 in the ring) power/chin. Gatti was also supposedly having a boxing renaisance under Buddy McGirt, who back then people thought was 1 of the best trainers with his success with Gatti/Tarver/etc, since then hes considered 1 of the worst. Funny how consensus opinions change. There was some bad blood between them at the time and Mayweather held it against Gatti even after the fight, naming him when asked the most 'whos overrated in the sport'. He then seemed sad/apologetic/respectful in an interview after Gattis death

There wasnt an ESB in 2000-2002 to my knowledge but if there was they'd be calling for Lewis to fight Tyson/Grant/Tua/Klitschkos and prob Ibeaubuchi, now some rag on him for not fighting Ruiz/Byrd

 

This shows you havent been on these forums, this was general ESB concensus, Im not saying it was right but Gatti was rated above the unproven Hatton/Cotto when Mayweather agreed to fight Gatti. There was actually a few threads where people posted their top10 at 140, and everyone pretty much had Gatti top5 or higher

DLH was coming off destroying Mayorga, the same Mayorga who gave Mosley a good scrap 18months ago. He was given an equal shot, lets not forget DLH would rehyrdate to 165lbs and Mayweather was a small WW with 3 fights above 140 and he was considered small at 140. There were questions how he would handle such a bigger man.

According to DLH fans he only lost to Hopkins because he was too small, he beat Mosley and had regained 154lb no1 status when he beat Mayorga

Baldomir was considered a gimme at the time and no one gave him a shot, but guess who was offered the same fight - Shane Mosley and Mosley wanted a vacation/holiday/dentistry

The fight with Judah was arranged prior to Judah losing. After the loss guess who was offered a fight with Mayweather, Margarito, guess who else Hatton. Both of these fighters he was supposedly 'ducking' and both were offered fights. Gatti got the Baldomir fight because he offered more money than Mayweather did. Mayweather couldnt get those 3 so went ahead with Judah anyway

 

The statements in bold show that you are a hater.

 

Yeah i remember it clearly, at that time i was even more into the then current boxing scene than the present one, i was knowledgeable of prospects and all back then. I just couldn't get over it that the whole boxing resurgence was based mainly on the edging of the trilogy over Micky Ward and then wins over the likes of Branco (i think?), he had absolutely no chance with Mayweather, the media thought he did and i just thought it was insanity.

Of course i could be lying! But i'm not.

 

As if I would waste my time discussing with you. :roll:

 

No he had no chance, most knew that. Ricky Hatton was thought to have more of a chance. I remember Mayweather thinking it was some monumental accomplishment beating Gatti, but it was more because he filled the arena thanks to Gatti.

 

But people did think Gatti had a chance though. Even i was dumb enough to think Hatton had a chance, i can admit it, so yeah hindsight is great, haha.

 

Cotto was considered better than Hatton for sure. I think with Judah, noone believed at that time he had become the gutless fighter he became. He wasnt outclassed by Baldomir, he just showed up lazy and in poor shape. He had a pretty good string of tough fights from Mayweather on, but seemed to lose his will to win.
As far as Oscar, he was inconsistent, but he was still looking pretty good, and even against Hopkins he was holding his own for a few rounds, just vastly outgunned. Floyd was the little guy looking up, and the way Oscar hung in with middleweights, most people thought with his speed and bigger size, he would have a chance with Floyd. Oscar really showed his true colors in the Forbes fight, because a smaller guy beat him up pretty good, something we hadnt seen before and something that continued in the Pac fight at a lower weight.

 

I thought Hatton had more of a chance than Gatti did, because Hatton threw a lot more punches, and if anything he would have had a better chance of getting closer and roughing up Floyd because he had better speed too. Gatti I never thought had any kind of chance too slow too predictable.

 

De La Hoya was definitely given a serious chance across the board against Mayweather, that's not debatable, i remember it clear as day.