prime roger mayweather vs pac

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  1. el mosquito

    el mosquito Boxing Addict banned

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    the main weapons one has to have in order to beat pac is to be an african-american with trash-talking credentials. Roger has both
     
  2. techks

    techks ATG list Killah! Full Member

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    Roger beats him now easily so imagine him when he was younger. It would be the worst schooling of Pac's career. Roger even said he'd beat Pacquiao.
     
  3. pit

    pit Boxing Junkie Full Member

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    Dude did you really think I would run from ur lil punk ass thread? Now answer my question, do U think PAC would have dominated the fighters 80s and 90s? And Do u really think he would have even had the skill to move to 147 let alone 135 and win a titles? That was the question *****, but I see u needed to get help to answer a simple question.. Truly a ***** move from a *****. Answer the question hoe!
     
  4. Twirdman

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    Dude Mayweather wasn't close to dominating the 80s or 90s either. Lets face it not all of the champs back then were ****ing sweet pea or Leonard. There was amazing talent, but not all the title holders were amazing and that's the case you have with Roger. He was a good fighter not great though, just because he fought at the same time as these legends doesn't make him as good as them. So yeah I think Pac could easily win belts from some of the weaker champs, including Roger, and hell even put up fights with some of the best out there.
     
  5. cuchulain

    cuchulain Loyal Member Full Member

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    That accounts for three of his losses.

    Freddie Pendleton, Darryl Tyson and Tony Baltazar account for three more.

    And there's at least another half dozen.



    He had some wins too:

    A shot Livingstone Bramble.

    And...

    And...

    Well, he had some wins too.

    And major titles ?

    He probably could have won at more than one wt....


    Well, who cares about his boxing. At least he was a brilliant orator, and a master of language.





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    You got to hand it to a man who can talk that well, and make that much sense...











    Pac.

    In under three.

    By destruction.
     
  6. pit

    pit Boxing Junkie Full Member

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    Read the statement man, you think I don't know that !!!?? My point being is that Roger was a terrific in an era that was great.. Pac is a simi great fighter in a era that is mediocre at best .. The talent level was amazing and very skilled, fighter like Donald curry, mark brealand, jeff chantler, Orlando Canizales, Buddy McGirt, simon Brown.. All these fighter are considered good to above average with the exception of my boy Orlando.. I won't even go into all the old school trainers that were still training these fighters ..

    True not all the belt holder in the 80 were not great but they sure as hell were not push overs ether.. and contender were tuff and skilled not like todays fighters, that are media processed.

    Hell I think Jaun Roldan would molly whoop a few of the belt holder today and he was considered a very tuff b level fighter in the 80s..

    No way in hell pac would have moved up in weight and garbed a title at 126 , 130, 135 and sure as hell not 147.
     
  7. Thread Stealer

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    Roger was a good fighter, but his punch resistance was a glaring weakness that would let him down once again. Barring a miracle right hand, which was a powerful punch from Roger, he gets starched.
     
  8. Twirdman

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    WTF are you serious. Even if I give you that this era is mediocre at best, something I'd probably disagree with and so would many others, and Rogers era was great which I will agree with, your statement makes no ****ing sense. How was Mayweather great in his era when he was at best a decent title holder and Pac only semi great in this era when he is dominating. You have to admit that Pac is easily more dominant, in every respects, in this era then Roger was in his. I mean Pac fighter of the decade and top fighter p4p now, along with 3 fighter of the years. Roger doesn't have any of that. So you can say the difference in era all you want, but you can't say that Roger was terrific in his era.
     
  9. pit

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    dude do have a bad time understanding or do like just like to ignore statements ?!?! I SAID ROGER WAS A GOOD FIGHTER IN AN ERA THTA WAS GREAT !! HE WAS GOOD ENOUGH TO GRAB THE TITLE TWICE !!! My opinion if Pac was fighting in the 80 he would have never made it to 135 period!! Had pac fought in the 80 and 90 he more then likely would have been rated the same as roger if he was lucky.. Had Roger been fighting in this era he would have been rated allot higher ...
     
  10. dhenzrae

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    woulda....coulda.....
     
  11. pit

    pit Boxing Junkie Full Member

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    again who did pac fight that make him so dominate ?? he beat two shop worn fighter in barrea and morales and in one of his fight with morales he was schooled. In my book he's one draw one lost against marquez .. he beat David Diaz , cotto and oscar in controlled weight matches . so where are all these so called dominate fights ?
     
  12. Twirdman

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    Dude Barrera was at a high on their first fight. He was coming of amazing wins including beating Nassem and Morales along with a number of other decent wins. Hatton was also a really good win at Hatton's best weight class, after Hatton dominated Paulie. Also the fight against Marquez a judge admitted to mis scoring a round 10-8 instead of 10-6, had she properly scored the round it would have been a win for Pac. And before Hoya everyone was saying that DLH was going to stomp Pac some of the same things were saying before Cotto. And I don't get were you're trying to go controlled weight matches, DLH set the fight at 147 and Cotto lost a whopping one pound for the Pac fight compared to what he weighed in his last fight. Stop downplaying Pac's achieves and stop trying to up play Roger's . No one considers Roger an ATG yet basically everyone considers Pac an ATG, don't you think there is a reason for that?
     
  13. pit

    pit Boxing Junkie Full Member

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    Berrera was on the decline a war with Kennedy McKenny, two hard fight with Jr Jones, 2 war with Morales a long fight with Tapia and he had just beaten a more then Shot Kevin Kelly before losing to pac.. by the time berrera reached pac his odometer had flipped and he has not been the same fighter since.

    Larry Holmes, mike tyson , and Roy Jones Jr are considered ATG also but many question the level of competition in their era..
    Answer this question : do you think Pac would have the same performance he has now in Roger era ? do you really think pac would have won a welter weight title in the 80s and 90s .. I mean Really ?

    I doubt pac could even compete at 135 or 140 in the 80s..
     
  14. chimba

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    Is this for real someone comparing a crackhead to a top 20 ATG still peaking?? good lord
     
  15. Farmboxer

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    Pac by knockout.

    Julio Ceasar Chavez stopped Roger in two different weight divisions.