What are Floyd Mayweather Jr. weekness? or Why I think he dose very well H2H.

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  1. teeto

    teeto Obsessed with Boxing banned

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    He gets **** all rankings on HERE though Flea, as in the classic. I'm not blowing the win out of proportion, or the performance, i'm just saying that they're better than the absolute nothing they get made out to be on the classic. And yes, they're not as good as what Mayweather fans on the general will make out. I'm not sticking up for him, i'm not arsed about him, i'm just calling it how i see it from a neutral perspective.
     
  2. horst

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    Nope. But Shane Mosley beat a prime version of Oscar more convincingly than Floyd managed with a vastly inferior version. Floyd doesn't need to win every second of every round, not even close, but he should be comprehensively defeating that version of Oscar if he is indeed the elite skilled ATG everyone thinks. Instead, he fought overly cautiously and defensively, and scraped through on an SD in an all-time stinker of a fight rather than actually try to assert his superiority over Oscar and win emphatically.
     
  3. teeto

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    This is a mad way of assessing legacies or even performances. STYLES make fights, you're taking a prime version of Shane Mosley who had an absolute classic battle with De La Hoya and comparing it with 154 pound Floyd Mayweather who had his own best days at 130 pounds. Mayweather came through a tough fight against an Oscar who was not in terrible form at that weight. We can twist things all we want, Mayweather for me showed the ability to adapt mid fight when in need of doing so. Oscar will always struggle with quality offensive opposition who are not undersized, ie Shane Mosley beating him, and that was not a one sided fight either. Mayweather is a great defensive minded boxer and Oscar took advantage with his jab, only for Floyd to switch up the strategy and pick him off with the right.

    I don't care about Floyd, just stop giving him ****.
     
  4. lefthook31

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    And you would be right. And yes, Mayweather is a complete fighter.
     
  5. teeto

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    :good

    I'm not going to say he isn't complete from a stylistic perspective, but i do think that Whitaker has an extra edge of versatility on him in that he can fight inside on full blown offense. Mayweather is brilliant inside but the emphasis is on countering with him, not that that is a bad thing, not at all, just that Whitaker did that plus he was able to battle away inside whilst forcing the fight ie push his man back.
     
  6. lefthook31

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    Mayweather can do it all. Hes not the same as Whitaker. He has a fairly unique style with that shoulder rolling and catching stuff. Hes just different, but he can box at range, fight inside, pressue, do it all. Mayweather will always look for the safer way to victory, because of his style, and it takes a certain type of opponent to bring that spectacular performance out of him.
    I believe Mosley has the type of style that wont allow Floyd to take that safer route to victory, just as Margarito's style did for Mosley, so I expect a much more dramatic fight however it plays out.
     
  7. teeto

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    To be honest i think that if Floyd stands in front of Mosley and covers up he'll make him void of ideas. Mosley is a quality body puncher though so we'll see how that factors into things. I wasn't comparing Whitaker and Mayweather as fighters, just highlighting the levels of completeness if you like. I can't say Mayweather is not a complete boxer because he has too much variation for that, but my point on how a guy like Whitaker has even more variation is one i still stand by. I see you disagree but we'll have to agree to.
     
  8. horst

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    You must care about Floyd, otherwise you wouldn't be moaning about someone "giving him ****". If you don't care about him, why would that bother you?

    And criticism is not the same as "giving him ****". I'm not on here saying "Floyd is a cocksucker" etc etc, I'm saying I thought his performance was poor against Oscar, and I stand by that. Oscar was years past his prime, and Floyd scraped past him in a stinker because he was too over-cautious to engage him.

    Just my opinion. If you don't like it, don't like it. :good
     
  9. lefthook31

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    No I just think theyre different. Mayweather is very good at throwing lead power shots, something Whitaker never did to that extent, so just different thats all, but both have/had complete skillsets.
    As for Mosley, he will be trying to get close to Floyd and bringing a lot of pressure. Floyds going to have to fight more in this fight. Mosleys too strong for Floyd to just potshot him from the outside all fight. I think we'll see a much more exciting fight because of it.
     
  10. teeto

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    No you're nitpicking my choice of words to desctibe criticism now. I'm not a fan, just how i see the fighter.

    Everyone knows i'm unbiased silly arse!!
     
  11. teeto

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    I think it will be a good fight too. Yeah like i said i agree on them being different fighters.
     
  12. PowerPuncher

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    mOSLEY STILL HAS FASTER FEET THAN ARGUELLO/IKE WILLIAMS WHO IM SURE U PICK OVER HIM

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  13. PowerPuncher

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    Pure agenda, if JLC is Mayweathers best opponent why did Corrales and Hatton stop him? That wouldnt suit your agenda though because those were more emphatic victories
     
  14. PowerPuncher

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    Not only this but Mayweather was likely outweighed by 15-20lbs in the ring and was likely past his best at 30, Delahoya also got the choice of ring and gloves. It wasnt pretty but was still a clear win and he outlanded his man by 2-1, if not better because DLH did not land anything clean all night. Mayweather had no business at 154lbs
     
  15. horst

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    He knocked Corrales out with one punch in the rematch, and was a better fighter with a better career.

    He was shot by the time he fought Hatton, and again JLC was the better fighter with the better career.