The Video Pac and Arum don't want you to Watch!

atsch

 

Are you being serious, or are you just interested in wasting my time? You mean to tell me you found the narrator's arguments rational and convincing?

 

Do you mean to tell me you find Roach and Arum's arguments convincing?

They have changed their stance numerous times! You know the quickest way to get law enforcement on your butt? Change your story. Somehow, this doesn't apply to you *******s. You just are too blind.

 

That avatar is too funny. Look like they are doing karate

 

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I've never said that I found Roach and Arum's statements to be consistent or convincing. What I have said is that I haven't heard Manny make contradictory statements about his reasons for not wanting to have blood drawn close to the fight.

I chalk up the garbage spewed by Arum as typical Bob Arum. I suspect Freddie put his foot in his mouth when speaking for Manny before hearing things directly from him.

The only thing I've heard Manny say is that he felt weakened for Morales 1 after being forced to give a second blood sample 2 days before the fight, which he then lost. Because of his experience, he is not willing to risk feeling weakened in a fight of this magnitude.

It doesn't matter if physiologically there is no chance of him suffering ill effects from the blood draw. What does matter is that he apparently strongly believes it will weaken him.

Suppose Floyd were to say he wants their fight to be a true test of man vs man with no supernatural help from God. In order to ensure a "level playing field," Floyd demands that they both renounce God prior to fighting. Would Manny be ridiculed for refusing this and missing out on the biggest payday of his career? After all, it's just words. Saying those words couldn't possibly affect his chances in the fight, right? Pacquiao claims to be a pretty devout Catholic. My guess is that he'd strongly object to this scenario because he believes it would harm him.

 

So Manny's statement was that 30 days out was good enough. He changed to 24 days after the 24/7 surfaced. You also know that he gave blood at 20 days for this fight right? You don't see anything wrong here?

When did he say this though? This was not his original position! FMJ asked for Olympic style drug testing from the beginning. If Manny was against giving blood then why didn't Manny just say no instead of trying to negotiate the number of tests and cut off dates? When he couldn't get those to his liking THEN he dropped out of negotiations. That is my issue.

Yes and no. If Manny read the contract and said, "No this is BS and I want no part in it." Fine. However if Manny reads the contract and says, "Sure I will do it." Then balks at the last minute over some technicality then it is wrong.

 

Did Josh pick the 20 day mark for the blood test? Manny has always maintained that he'll go by whatever the regulating commission says he has to do. The blood test was required as part of routine screening for the fight. He may not have been happy about the timing, but that's the breaks. Hopefully he felt no noticeable difference and will be happy to comply with Floyd's demands for a tighter cutoff.

 

Perhaps they didn't realize that "Olympic style drug testing" entails the protocol of random unlimited blood/urine testing up to the day of the fight. Probably once they understood that's what was on the table, Manny said he wasn't willing to go along.

 

He said on Jimmy Kimmel that the reason he didn't want a blood test is because Floyd is bigger than him so it wouldn't be fair, he also said that if he was bigger than Mayweather then it wouldn't be fair on him (Mayweather) to give a blood test either.

 

See this is where you are stepping all over yourself. Did the commission ask for a $10 million dollar weight penalty? Then that is a dead excuse.

If the issue is that giving blood gives him fits than he should not be able to give blood for ANY reason under X days before a fight. This is something allegedly based in belief. It isn't rational. He stuck on 24 days then non-chalantly gave at 20? The guy's a liar! Then Roach is on air saying he had a 9 round sparring session the next day! WTF?!? I thought it weakens you?

The blood test was "required" by the terms of the contract from the beginning. If giving blood was an issue why sign the contract in the first place? Why can you do it for Clottey when no testing is involved?

It is BS!

 

See now you are reaching for BS. They didn't realize? Really? The protocol is outlined right on the Olympic committee's website. They couldn't call?

And now you illustrate that YOU don't even know what Olympic style drug testing is. If you did you would know that "random unlimited blood/urine testing is BS. You can even miss tests as long as you take them in 48 hours.

This is what I mean about you *******s making it up as you go along. You BELIEVE in Pac. This is why you disregard or invent "facts".

 

He will disappear soon. This is what they always do when you start throwing facts at *******s.

 

Get over the $10M penalty. What does Floyd have to do differently from any other fight at 147 to have that be a non-issue?

Now you're just applying your own ideas for what he should or shouldn't be able to do. Clearly it's not about giving blood. It was about giving blood too close to the fight. He couldn't care less if you take his blood post-fight.

I suspect Pac will have become convinced that he feels no ill effects of giving blood at this weight and the cutoff won't be a big issue in the future.

Was the contract ever signed?

As for the commission calling the shots, Manny said he'd go along with whatever the NSAC demanded as they are the governing body. If NSAC had said he had to give blood the day before the fight, he would have accepted. There is a difference to him when the commission requires it vs his opponent.

 

If I remember correctly, with USADA, from the moment you are notified of a demand for a sample, an official must remain with you until the sample is collected. There is no "show up and give a sample when it's convenient as long as it's within 48 hours."