The Video Pac and Arum don't want you to Watch!

Discussion in 'World Boxing Forum' started by ricardinho, Mar 10, 2010.


  1. bald_head_slick

    bald_head_slick Obsessed with Boxing Full Member

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    Jeez. It is a non-issue. Just like it is a non-issue that Mayweather requested blood testing. The man fighting you has a right to make requests. You have a right to refuse them. Why agree then run?

    It is about giving blood! Because giving blood too close to a fight allegedly affects his performance. OK, if that is the case when is the "safe" cutoff? First it was 30 days. Then 24. Now 20... So when? Mayweather requested 14! So now you feel that is reasonable not to fight for 14 days, but 20 is cool? You are full of it :yep

    Huh? If he is so convinced that he WILL feel ill effects why does he keep getting caught changing the dates of blood testing? If he "believed" this he would be set to X number of days. Why? It is because it is all BS. He is ducking having blood drawn to prevent drug testing. If he had "fear" he would ALWAYS be chicken. He has selective fear of drawing blood.

    Why are you *******s so simple? Contracts aren't signed until both parties know what is going to be in them and agree. Mayweather saw what was asked, agreed in principal, and then sent it back. Team Pac (Arum, Roach, Manny) saw what was asked, agreed in principal and... then they backpedaled... tried to change the meaning of the word random... then they RAN! If you don't like the terms why even enter negotiations? :huh

    Get out of here. That is BS. They came up with that AFTER they realized that the commission would stay out of it. The commission is in no position to impose this type of testing on all of boxing so the statement is pointless. If Manny is so "pro-commission" then why ask for the weight penalty? The commission already has rules for it. Over 147 fights off!

    You have no facts. You are just making it up as you go along.
     
  2. bald_head_slick

    bald_head_slick Obsessed with Boxing Full Member

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    That is BS. They will look for you in all of the places listed on your contact form. There really isn't a reason for a missed test while leading up to a fight or in a boxing camp. Why would you miss a test?

    Second if you are not in any of the places you list, you can write a letter to say why. So unless you duck out and don't notify them, why would you miss a test?

    They come to you!

    Team Pac is full of it!
     
  3. snakeface

    snakeface The Woodside Hurricane Full Member

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    what is the name of that ****ing track that plays for every youtube fanmade video?...from requiem for a dream.... tired of that track...
     
  4. ricardinho

    ricardinho Boxing Junkie Full Member

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    Seckbach put up a video of Pac paying people to lose weight... however he requires blood and urine tests to make sure they are clean.



    [ame]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6KyIu6TKO9g[/ame]
     
  5. Flexb

    Flexb Boxing Junkie Full Member

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    Yes, I will bet my left nut Pac is guilty. This video does a great job exposing Pac. To hell with that midget!
     
  6. bladerunner

    bladerunner El Intocable Full Member

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    they hired JMM to test the urine of those overweight pinoys,theres some reports going around that hes thinking about retiring from boxing and become a professional urines taster,i mean tester sorry.
     
  7. bladerunner

    bladerunner El Intocable Full Member

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    then you'll be left with no nuts,maybe then you can ask the cross dressing phony you have in your avatar if you can have one of his balls after he does his sex change operation.
     
  8. Brian

    Brian Well-Known Member Full Member

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    That video could have conveyed the same point in much less time. It was poorly done although some good and interesting points were made.

    The addition of the music was corny and was mixed terribly with the narration. The guy's inability to pronounce names properly or sustain a good rhythm while speaking ruins it for me.

    Yes, I think Pacquiao is suspect, but this vid did nothing for me. It doesn't tell us much we don't already know.
     
  9. ???

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    The most important thing to keep in mind is that anabolic steroids or their metabolites show up in urine.


    The narrator's points are stated and then refuted in green:


    1. Requesting a steroid test is not without precedence. Tyson requested one of Holyfield and Holyfield agreed.
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    2. Tommy Morrison admitted using steroids throughout his career and was never caught.
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    3. Shane Mosely took The Cream, The Clear, and EPO.
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    4. Attempts to discredit the NSAC by stating that Mosley's trainer took a list of substances Shane was taking to the NSAC and they cleared them all.
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    http://www.nydailynews.com/sports/m...dmits_to_using_balco_stero.html#ixzz0huRBR3IJ

    5. Brings up how Mosely never tested positive.
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    6. Quotes Margaret Goodman who says that steroids aren't necessarily used for bulking up, rather they are used so athlete's can train harder.
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    7. Flip Homansky, “If you know the testing schedule, you shouldn't get caught. Only way to catch is testing between competition.”
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    8. Supposedly quotes a ******* that says “Random tests don't matter, Manny agreed to do a test 24 days before the fight and after the fight (why would Manny picking his testing dates matter)?"
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    9. Regarding several boxing insiders that have expressed suspicion towards Pacquiao, “There are probably many reasons why they feel that way, and I'm sure word of mouth has something to do with it.”
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    10. Brings up Manny's energized performance vs Diaz, when just 3months prior, he looked sluggish vs Marquez. He “magically looks like a 22 yr old high volume puncher.”
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    11. Says that Manny gave blood directly before the Hatton fight and then slips in that it was 14 days out.
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    13. “People believe that Pacquiao lost to Morales because of a blood test, but Manny knew he was gonna be taking a blood test, and has anyone even taken the time to entertain the thought that Manny might have gone into that fight off a PED and the fact he didn't use enhancers before the fight are the reasons why he was sluggish in the bout.”
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    14. “We will never know if he's clean until he agrees to year-round Olympic-style testing.”
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    15. Brings up Ariza's famous statement about Manny not knowing what he takes. Narrator's response: “I also find this statement contradictory. If Manny is afraid of giving blood, how can someone so cautious about giving blood not know what he's putting in his body?”
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    16. Brings up all the baseball players that were suspected of using steroids.
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    17. “If Manny gets cut in a fight, they should stop the fight because he might be weakened?”
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    18. If Floyd was the one in question people would just assume he's on steroids without looking into facts.”
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  10. ricardinho

    ricardinho Boxing Junkie Full Member

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    Though I commend you for doing research... how you counter points 2-8 only strengthens the need for random blood tests and weakens your position
     
  11. elguapo

    elguapo Well-Known Member Full Member

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    Superb vid!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
     
  12. Flexb

    Flexb Boxing Junkie Full Member

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    You're a fuking idiot if you think pac is innocent and not taking anything. Go smoke some more crack you delusional moron
     
  13. bladerunner

    bladerunner El Intocable Full Member

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    Moron? you're the one that thinks he takes something that makes him bulletproof and im the moron.

    Go back to jacking of to the pics of phony boy de la hoya wearing fishnets you Millie Corretjer wannabe that will help you forget for a minute that a midget made your idol quit and sent him to retirement .
     
  14. Flexb

    Flexb Boxing Junkie Full Member

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    Blah blah blah. Pacfuk isn't bullet proof, it's his endurance and punch out put as of late that is off the charts. Oh and running away from 30 mil for a teaspoon of blood isn't enough proof. Keep on believing fool :good
     
  15. bladerunner

    bladerunner El Intocable Full Member

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    Spoke like like a true know nothing fanboy that you are if anything his endurance and punch output has decreased compared to his days at feather and super feather.

    But thats not the reason you think hes taking something illegal is it? you simply cant believe that a midget like him could beat your idol the fishnets ****** without taking steroids and the roids issue is something that helps you ease the pain that the beating Pacquiao inflicted on Phony boy left in your vagina.