The Video Pac and Arum don't want you to Watch!

Considering he moved up in weight, increased his power and punch out put stayed the same as feather, which did increase after that fight with Morales, which many say he was off the juice for hence his sluggishness in the ring. But all of that is nothing compared to him running like a scared little boy of getting caught when he didn't want his blood tested. Amazing you can't rationalize this. You're logic is that of a girl -- you should get your estrogen levels checked.

As for Oscar, Forbes almost stood his equal? What's your point? Except to reach for something pathetic and off-topic to hold up your ante at this discussion which is in itself is an epic failure. Nonetheless, carry on

 

why you even pcuking with this lop homie look were they come FROM....

 

wow you guys really are morons if u believe this

 

increased his power based on what dumbass?A KO over Hatton that idiots like you say couldnt take a punch anymore is that it?how many shots did it took for him to stop a bum like Diaz?He hit Phony Boy with everything and he still couldnt drop him?He hit Cotto with everything and he still couldnt knock him out so again how did his punching power increased?

If you think his punching output is the same since his days at 126 and 130 you need to stop watching DLH singing mariachi songs and check Pac fights back when he was at those weights.

as for his move in weight thats been prove to be an overrated issue cause even when he was fighting at 126 he would come to the ring as a junior welter the only difference is that now he doesnt have to drain himself like he used to in those days and now hes fighting bigger and slower fighters.

The only thing you have is the accusations of a family of crackheads and Pac's team's contradictions thats it,that coupled with you being the bitter schoolgirl that is still traumatized from seeing the man of your dreams get beat from pilar to post by some asian midget lead you to come to the conclusion that hes on steroids without any solid evidence.

 

I've been saying this from day one to those that are of the position that they believe Pac just was'nt going to let Mayweather dictate testing protocol.

If that was the case with Pac, he would have rejected Mayweather's stipulation from day one of them reading the rough draft of the contracts......


You are absolutely correct BHS......Pac did not want to come straight out and look guilty by altogether refusing the idea of drug testing.....but there is no question, if he did'nt want the testing, the best thing he could have done is outright refuse from the day one instead of getting into negotiating mode that a 30 day window was fine with him.


Pac is saying that he's willing to test, but there are numberous sources that would say that any kind of a sizeable window of non-testing defeats the purpose of the testing.


Pac's problem today is that he was willing to negotiate how and when there would be testing, when he should have just told Mayweather "**** off, I'm not letting you dictate to us drug testing protocol."

Pac painted himself into a corner, and now he's looking guilty as sin.

 

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GUILTY!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!:rofl:rofl:rofl Do not pass GO , do not collect 40million dollars, Go straight to jail Pacquiao!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!:hi:

 

Please explain how the fact that unlimited random urine testing catches all known steroids "strengthens the need for random blood tests."

It seems that many who are convinced that Pacquiao is hiding something for refusing unlimited random blood tests have forgotten how significant the unlimited random urine testing he accepted is in this scenario. If Manny had insisted on the 24 day cutoff for blood in the absence of the unlimited urine testing, you'd have a strong case to argue.

 

What window exists with a protocol of unlimited random urine testing? Are you aware of any known steroids that cannot be detected in urine?

Just for a moment, presume that Manny really did have a belief that giving blood close to a fight would harm him in the fight by weakening him. Furthermore, he holds this belief because he has felt weakened in the past after giving blood. Wouldn't it make sense then to want a blood test to be as far away from the fight as possible? Why do you think the post-fight blood test is of no concern to him?

This video was all about steroids which are simply out of the question with the urine testing agreed upon. Elevated hematocrit from EPO or blood doping would be detected in the post-fight blood test.

 

after this video...I'm 110% sure Manny the baddest mini-warrior that ever lived IS not juiced!

 

decent background musiik though.

 

I'm not about to re-hash what already has been dicussed in this forum to nauseum.

Numerous links have been posted in threads here with statements from doctors that know about testing procedure and indicating that the best way to test is both blood and urine.

This has already been discussed........The Tour de France tests blood, urine, and hair for crying out load......
......I'm sure they must do this for kicks!:roll:

 

Unlimited urine testing is a very good compromise already.
I don't expect any of them to address these points. Watch. They'll say not all are detectable by urine but if you ask what's not detectable by urine they can't give a definite answer. Them some will respond something unrelated to your point like 'just take the ****ing test'. Or maybe even bring out Pac's mistress in the process or how bad he sings, or how bad his english is.
:tired

 

This only reinforces Manny's ignorance on the subject of blood drawing. Which means he is truly telling the truth that blood being drawn from him effects him negatively. He believes it so that he also projected it to his opponent that if he was bigger and Floyd is small it will affect Floyd worse. No inconsistency there if you analyze it. Just remember that it is all in Manny's mind.