The Video Pac and Arum don't want you to Watch!

*******s are trully special people. I can see paquiao 3 years from now, speaking on a podium admiting ped use, and *******s calling manny a lier

atsch :yep

 

Palm on forehead. That's actually a precise reaction to your own post.

 

pacmans 100% using

 

Get off the crack Roger. You can't even finish a sentence now.

 

The "facts" that were stated in the video were indeed facts (x fighters juicing, x of them not being caught, cycling, etc), but irrelevant to whether or not the sudden accusation that Pac is juicing is justifiable.

That being said, they ARE relevant to posing the need for better testing measures in boxing for ALL fighters, not just to single Pac out.

To place single out pac seriously, there would need to exist RELEVANT facts that would place him under suspicion, and in that regard there is none. He would either have to test positive, or achieve performance feats that are statistically abnormal and warrant investigation.

He has never tested positive and the blood tests have not shown positive either.
He moved up in weight class very well, however it is impractical to make an accusation solely based on that. Note how other ATGs managed to have moved up successfully in weight class.

From here, we can infer that the initial accusation from Floyd Sr. could have been drawn up from perhaps obstinacy, in which he simply cannot accept anyone being superior to his son. He seems that way anyway "NO one's better than lil floyd, and if they are, they're cheating" in fact, I recall he did say that in one interview.

Note that this is all prior to the whole debacle, before the negotiations began. There simply was no need to suddenly fabricate baseless accusations at the time.

Everything else on the matter I consider team Pac's fault, for failure to communicate with each other, and most notably Arum, who seems to have ulterior motives and I suspect may be looking to discard Pac in the near future due to his shelf life coming to a close.

 

I dont answer too many idiots in these forums but man Lance armstrong said it best.

" A few drops of blood is the smallest price to pay to prove that you are the best"

I think for myself Manny is a lil cheating *****. Just look at his jaw how it got wider in a period of a year and a half.

Stop beeing mad at the world because Team pacman is feeding us more BS than floyd.
And we all know how floyd like to talk about BS

 

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After reading 14 pages of this I can honestly say.. this is the post that makes the most sense.

 

this isnt a courtroom. we can say whatever the **** we want about manny!!! as far as we are concered, this video raises suspicions about wether he is on PED's or not, do you not think so? why is this bull**** but whatever manny says isnt bull****?

 

then you must be stupid...

 

FFS, if Manny had just agreed to take the drug test then this wouldn't have been an issue?

Would it?

I only read threads on this subject every now and then, what is the general consesus good reason among the pacfans to why Manny wouldn't agree to the test?

BTW ... "Not wanting to do what Floyd says" is not good enough reason.

 

1 word -- FAIL

 

Exactly. The thing is these sad little *******s can rest assured manny will never put himself in a position where he will be tested at random so he will never get caught. If it wasn't for the money, every fighter out there should demand Pac get the random blood testing until he agree's and proves us all wrong. I mean fuk, if he's innocent there's nothing off his back anyway. But he's NOT for fuk sakes. All of you who think he's innocent, honestly, shoot yourself.

 

This reply just proves what i already knew that you're a know nothing schoolgirl that when faced with facts chooses to ignore them and post words like Fail and Owned and a bunch of emoticons.

Stick with watching "The Hills" and "Desperate Housewives" boxing isnt for ***s like you that get chronic butthurt from seeing their idol get beat by another fighter.

 

During the negotiations, Pac brought with him scientists who would prove that unlimitted urine testing and blood test immediately after the fight is enough to detect if he is using PED and EPO. Unfortunately Floyd was obstinate, probably really scared of fighting Pac.

Also Freddy's acceptance of a 5 -day window before being corrected by Pac probabaly means that there was really nothing to hide.

 

there still arent any facts... but if you compare the info from this video with pacs actions in response to floyds demands, its really really ****in' suspicious!!! even a ******* has to admit that!!!