What Can Joshua Clottey Do To Beat Manny Pacquiao?

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  1. charlievint

    charlievint Obsessed with Boxing Full Member

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    I agree.....Everyone thinks that Josh will be able to catch Manny coming in when he darts in with offense but Manny's rythm is very spuratic and hard to anticipate. Couple that with having the superior foot speed and working angles with beautiful balance doesn't spell a victory for Josh. I think Manny's speed is gonna be the biggest problem for Josh who will find it hard to get Manny to the ropes. I agree with you! Do you think Manny will get Josh out of there?
     
  2. Scottish

    Scottish Khan(t) take a punch Full Member

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    A Side meth, make it an even fight
     
  3. Scar

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    What he's supposed to do he really can't because he lacks the stamina. This fight requires that he fights slow as he's used to and also mix that up with unpredictable aggression and activity. Clottey will be too predictable and will stick to one game plan which he will find more and more difficult to execute especially after he runs out of gas in the third. If he couldn't show improvement in stamina in his career's biggest fights(Cotto and Margarito) then forget about him showing it here, even in most of his victories he was out of gas.
     
  4. BewareofDawg

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    Good point, and if he does go to clottey's body, In my opinion, Clottey has a much better chance at winning as you said.
     
  5. BewareofDawg

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    I can't predict this fight because Manny is so unpredictable. A part of me says no, and thinks this will be a fight where Pac will win a decision based on activity and neither fighter will take alot of damage due to Clottey's shell and Manny's speed, both defenses overshadowing the offenses. But apart of me will not be surprised if by the 3rd round Clottey is getting hit with every punch Pac throws due to Pacs speed and angles.


    If I had to bet, the 1st scenario seems more likely. A UD for pac that gives some Pac haters some ammo against him in that he never hurt Clottey and alot of rounds might be close.
     
  6. The_Mediator

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    Lead from the right, use a lot of right jabs and straights. Time Pac so he can counter Pac in the middle of his combinations and catch Pac jumping or out or to the side with uppercuts. Go to Pac's body to slow him down(not entirely but a little will be a big difference).

    I also think Clottey needs to make Pac fight on the backfoot most of the time, so he can negate some of Pac's power, and bring down his offense. He has to make Pac be on his toes the entire fight so Pac'll be thinking of getting out of range all the time and not focusing exclusively on offense.

    He must do all these without taking unnecessary risks, that means fighting at a sustained but controlled pace behind a very tight guard.
     
  7. charlievint

    charlievint Obsessed with Boxing Full Member

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    Right.......Everytime I say Manny's gonna have a tough time or would loose he comes out and exceeds my expectations. Josh is very big and that might be a problem but I can't see that being more of a problem than Manny's style coupled with his speed. I'm sticking with a UD myself but I'm saying it's gonna be a clear cut "W" for Manny.
     
  8. charlievint

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    Sounds good...only one thing I don't agree with. Josh should definitly throw the uppercut but only when he has PAC on the ropes. The uppercuts in the middle of the ring would leave Josh open for easy counters from manny with either hand. He'll want to utlize the uppercut effectively by controlling the range as well as where the in-fighting is taking place....Ropes are Josh's best friend in this fight.
     
  9. The_Mediator

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    If they are are close-up in the center of the ring, Clottey has really good uppercuts. But I get you point, if Pac's not close, the uppercuts exposes Clottey to Pac's superfast hands.

    I'm looking to see whether Clottey can land his triple\quadruple left hook combination on Pac without taking return fire as he usually does because Pac is really fast and may be able to counter in the middle of that combination.

    If Clottey block as effectively as he usually does, can avoid taking any silly shots(by being controlled behind his tight guard), can take the shots that do land clean and can really effectively make Pac fight on the backfoot.

    Basically, if Clottey's defense holds up whiles he's applying pressure and he applies his normal or above average pressure, there's nothing Pac can do win the fight.
     
  10. BewareofDawg

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    I think Clottey's best bet is to stay as basic as possible. Tight guard, busy but basic offense. Once he gets excited and tries uppercuts in the middle and triple hooks he will most likely get struck by the quicker more accurate Pacman.
     
  11. Son of Gaul

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    He needs to stay within himself and not make any major changes...just small adjustments over the ENTIRE fight. In other words, he needs to focus on staying defensive minded without going into a shell for long stretches. If he does this, he'll have a fair chance to win a decision.
     
  12. Jsmoove

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    I'd say jab jab and more jabs to setup other punches but clottey doesn't have the fame of pacman to win a decision like that even if clottey lands tons of jabs and lead rights while manny throws good looking shots that are blocked pacman will get the ud especially being in Texas. I've only seen clottey fight one time so I can't comment on his endurance but if the past posters are correct and he can't improve his stamina there is no way he wins this fight
     
  13. I already made this thread yesterday.